Adventure map, Town Gate, information text when the spell is grayed out in the magic book and the player attempts to cast the spell about fheroes2 HOT 12 OPEN

"This hero is already in the nearest town, so he cannot cast this spell."

Hmm, if this hero is already in a town, how he could be in a non-nearest town? Nearest to what? Does this imply that the hero can somehow be in a town, but in some distant town in relation to him? How is that?

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Hello @oleg-derevenetz,

"This hero is already in the nearest town, so he cannot cast this spell."

Hmm, if this hero is already in a town, how he could be in a non-nearest town? Nearest to what? Does this imply that the hero can somehow be in a town, but in some distant town in relation to him? How is that?

The spell returns the hero who cast the spell to the nearest town.
The hero is already in the nearest town.
The nearest town to the hero's position on the adventure map.
The hero is already in the nearest town to his current position.
Hope this helps.

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The spell returns the hero who cast the spell to the nearest town.
The hero is already in the nearest town.
The nearest town to the hero's position on the adventure map.
The hero is already in the nearest town to his current position.
Hope this helps.

Sorry, but no. All this doesn't explain how a hero can be in a non-nearest town to him. If the hero is in a town, then it is obvious that the town in which he is located is the town closest to him, because he cannot be in a town that is not closest to him - unless towns are somehow nested in each other.

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Hi, @LeHerosInconnu. I'm more curious about what it is in the current text that you want to solve. I'm asking because the suggested text with its use of "nearest" sounds weird in the given context.

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How about: "The hero is currently in a town, so this spell will have no effect."? This avoids the use of "you".

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How about: "The hero is currently in a town, so this spell will have no effect."? This avoids the use of "you".

The part about avoiding "you" in quite legitimate, but the meaning of the clarification about the nearest town escapes me.

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Hello @zenseii,

Hi, @LeHerosInconnu. I'm more curious about what it is in the current text that you want to solve. I'm asking because the suggested text with its use of "nearest" sounds weird in the given context.

The user can think "in the nearest town" excluding the town in which the hero who wants to cast the spell is currently located.
The user may be confused about the destination.

For example, for the Town Portal spell, if the hero is already in a town, this town does not appear in the list of possible destinations (at least not currently).
So there's no confusion for the Town Portal spell.

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Town Portal spell.

It's important to put yourself in the shoes of all kinds of users when explaining something (taking into account that some users know absolutely nothing about the game), so that everything is understandable without being confusing.

How about: "The hero is currently in a town, so this spell will have no effect."? This avoids the use of "you".

Why not.
Combining the two sentences:

"This hero is already in the nearest town, so this spell will have no effect."

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The user can think "in the nearest town" excluding the town in which the hero who wants to cast the spell is currently located.
The user may be confused about the destination.

"This hero is already in a town" is enough. The "This hero is already in the nearest town" wording implies that there is some weird alternative to "nearest", according to which the hero can be in some "non-nearest"/distant town(?), which is absurd. It looks like an attempt to clarify that the water is wet, as if the water can be dry.

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Hello @oleg-derevenetz,

The user can think "in the nearest town" excluding the town in which the hero who wants to cast the spell is currently located.
The user may be confused about the destination.

"This hero is already in a town" is enough. The "This hero is already in the nearest town" wording implies that there is some weird alternative to "nearest", according to which the hero can be in some "non-nearest"/distant town(?), which is absurd.

It's an indication for the novice player that the game considers that with the Town Gate spell, if a hero is in a town, that town is considered the nearest by the Town Gate spell.
Now, if everyone feels it's not necessary to specify this, do what's best for the game.

It looks like an attempt to clarify that the water is wet, as if the water can be dry.

Dry water

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Dry water

Yeah :)

Dry water consists of 95% liquid water

Another juggling with words.

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Hi, @oleg-derevenetz and @LeHerosInconnu.

Another approach to solving @LeHerosInconnu's issue would be to change the description of the Town Gate spell to explain that it doesn't work if the hero is already in a town. Admittedly, I don't remember how that description goes so maybe it already does that, in which case there's no need to further explain this in the dialog we are discussing.

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Hello @zenseii,

Hi, @oleg-derevenetz and @LeHerosInconnu.

Another approach to solving @LeHerosInconnu's issue would be to change the description of the Town Gate spell to explain that it doesn't work if the hero is already in a town. Admittedly, I don't remember how that description goes so maybe it already does that, in which case there's no need to further explain this in the dialog we are discussing.

The original spell description is not very clear on this point:

"Returns the caster to any town or castle currently owned."

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In original game:

The hero casting the spell is in a castle:

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