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TheTyrius avatar TheTyrius commented on July 22, 2024 4

I am also using google 2fa. I have enabled "less secure apps", but to use mail clients like kmail or delta I need to generate and use a special "app password" for just that application. (More information: https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords)

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ravilov avatar ravilov commented on July 22, 2024 3

Any chance of implementing OAuth2 in DeltaChat? I assume that's why we need to enable less secure apps in Gmail. I really hate having to enable that, plus it doesn't look well for an app that's trying to appeal to business users. Honestly having to enable that setting is right now the only reason I'm not using DC more seriously.

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SaintDI avatar SaintDI commented on July 22, 2024 2

App password works well, but I strongly suggest to write a little tip message when new account is configured, because it isn't clear for average users.

e.g. "Please, generate an app password on your mail account if you're use 2FA autentication method."

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danito avatar danito commented on July 22, 2024 1

I confirm that creating an application password works for Delta when you have 2fa enabled. (without enabling less secure apps). Thanks for the tip.

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r10s avatar r10s commented on July 22, 2024

We know about this issue, however, currently it is not clear to me how this can be fixed. Any help on this point would be welcome.

In between, you can enable support for "less secure apps"
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 (the name is a little bit misleading, of course, Delta Chat uses all secure standards, however, there seems to be some proprietary google stuff)

I've also seen some Googlemail accounts where a simple "UnlockCaptcha" is sufficient, see https://gmailhelp.com/unlocking-googles-gmail-captcha/

Again, if anyone can help on these points, this would be very welcome.

PS: Your english seems to be perfect, sorry for mine.

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enko avatar enko commented on July 22, 2024

Thunderbird for example supports OAuth2 for IMAP, maybe you could support this.

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petmos avatar petmos commented on July 22, 2024

To my mind k9mail uses OAuth2 for IMAP, too.
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/tree/master/k9mail-library/src/main/java/com/fsck/k9/mail/oauth
and
thunderbird/thunderbird-android@7774ebc

Perhaps this helps you.

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rizzopablo avatar rizzopablo commented on July 22, 2024

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r10s avatar r10s commented on July 22, 2024

+1 :)
in fact, we just need someone who can do this resp. has the time to do so :)

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testbird avatar testbird commented on July 22, 2024

App password works well, but I strongly suggest to write a little tip message when new account is configured, because it isn't clear for average users.

I really hate having to enable that [less secure apps] , plus it doesn't look well for an app that's trying to appeal to business users.

Inform and warn users if they are subjecting themself and others to providers that work to collect data against their users AND their users' contacts interests.

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testbird avatar testbird commented on July 22, 2024

Applies to configuring, sending and receiving.

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r10s avatar r10s commented on July 22, 2024

i think this is targeted well enough by #336, at least for now, closing.

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