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Description: Type should be "Heavy D3" ; Abiblities should be "Attacks from this weapon that target enemies at 8" or less are resolved with an AP of -4 and a Damage of D3."
Description: The Forceshield on the Autarch is being costed as wargear, rather than as the ability it is displayed as in the index. The Autarch should have the 4+ invulnerable for no added cost instead of the 8 points it is showing in battlescribe.
Description: When attempting to set up a unit of Chaos Space Marines i do not seem to have any options for wargear for the champion at all, and am not able to give the squad two Heavy Weapons or two Special Weapons, only one of each.
NOTE: This is a re-submission of a previous issue which was closed due to me not having altered the default "2.0" in the "BattleScribe version"-field.
Description: Scions now have the option for two specials for every five models. This option is not reflected in the data files. It can be worked around creatively but will be listed as an invalid list.
Description:
Right now, when making a new Ynnari force, detachments can be selected normally, but those detachments only have the 3 native HQ choices (Yvraine, the Visarch, the Yncarne). There is no flow to create mixed detachments of Aeldari / Druhkari / Harlequins using the Ynnari heroes.
Currently confirmed with Dark Reapers and Dire Avengers, adding/subtracting basic models from the unit is not factoring in wargear.
A dire avenger should consist of its base cost (10) plus its avenger shuriken catapult (7). Subtracting a Dire Avenger from the unit results in a drop of 10 points (from 85 to 75). Dropping to one Dire Avenger leaves 45 points. (The cost of 1 DA + 5 catapults).
Conversely, adding Dire Avengers beyond the first increments the unit cost by 10.
The first Dire Avenger model added back to a completely empty Dire Avenger unit properly costs 17 points.
Description: Detailed issue description.
When I do to view on a roster I can't see profiles for models. See attached images. The title and points are all there but not the unit profiles.
Description: When attempting to set up a unit of Chaos Space Marines i do not seem to have any options for wargear for the champion at all, and am not able to give the squad two Heavy Weapons or two Special Weapons, only one of each.
Dark Reaper Aspect warrior cost problem. When a new one is added to the unit, Its cost does not include the Reaper Launcher weapon cost. 5 points versus 36.
Description: Create a Brigade Detachment of Astra Militarum. Create a tempestus scion squad. Put in 6 regular scions, and try to add 4 hotshot volley guns. It only allows for up to 2 of any type of special weapon, instead of 4. I tried deleting the tempestor and it still didn't work.
Description: Deathwatch Bikers, Vanguard Veterans, and Terminators are listed as only requiring 1 model to run them legally. Currently you have to run these units at the strength indicated in the data slate entries which is only correct for power level.
I would love an option to inculde the list of Orders with the roster.
Commisar Yarrik missing "Hero of Hades Hive" ability.
Lord Commisar, Tempestor Prime, Commisar: Chainsword has no profile. In fact no items on the Melee weapons list has a profile.
Hot Shot Lasgun and Hot Shot Las Pistol profile incomplete. S3 Ap-2 D1
Taurox Prime has the wrong BS in it's damage table. It should be 1 better. Starts at 3+.
Nork Deddog is missing his "Huge Knife"
Deathstrike is missing a damage chart.
Armoured sentinal should default to multi-laser
No profiles for Sentinal weapons
Rough Riders should be grouped. The min unit size is 5. 2 of them can have special weapons.
Conscripts have no wargear. Should have Lasgun and Frag Grenade.
Platoon and Company Commander should have frag grenades.
Company commander has no Power Level
Says that the maximum number of transports is 1 (Taurox/Chimera both)
Valkyrie Heavy Bolters are 24 points for a pair. They should cost 16 points per pair (HB at 8 points each)
Lord Castellan Creed is having multiple errors reported: "Lord Castellan Creed has 1 too many selections of Hot-shot Laspistol (maximum 1)" when value is changed to 1 error is report "must have 1 more selections of Hot-shot Laspistol (minimum 2) when two are selected."
Elite choice Commissar has no power point. Should be 2.
Astra Militarum Infantry Squad not labeled as troops and not correctly costed at 40pts base.
Heavy Weapon Team doesn't charge for crew (eg lascannon should be 28 points (20+4+4) because you have to remove 2 guardsman from the guardsmen section for it to validate)
Grenade Launcher is 1 pt too expensive at 10 points (should be 4+5 = 9)
Astra Militarum Flamer in Infantry Squad entry should be 11 points (4 for model 7 for the weapon) not 14points.
Tempestor with hotshot laspistol should be 10pts (9 + 1 for hotshot laspistol)
Special weapons are soft limited to 2 total in a 10 man squad (should be 4) - allows it but lists it as an error.
Special weapons are hard limited to 2 of each type, even in a 10 man squad (should be 4 of each, but also 4 total)
MT Scions - They can take 2 special weapons for every 5 models in the unit.
Scion with vox-caster should be 15pts (9+5+1)
Scion with medi pack should be 20 pts (9 +1 for HS laspistol + 10 for medi pack)
Scion w/vox-caster should be 15pts (9+1 for HS laspistol +5 for vox-caster)
Hotshot Laspistol needs to cost 1pt
If you have two veteran squads and make changes to the special weapons it makes the same change to both squads.
Need the option to take a heavy flamer in addtion to their special weapon choices.
Heavy weapons don't include the cost of the veterans - they should because you have to decrease the veteran count by 2 if you add a heavy weapon
Veteran w/ Medi-pack is only 6 points, should be 16
Veteran w/ Meltagun is only 6 points, should be 18
Veteran w/ Plasma Gun is only 6 points, should be 13
Veteran w/ Sniper Rifle is only 6 points, should be 5
Veteran Heavy Weapons team only has access to a Mortar
Veterans can take a vet with a heavy flamer.
Pask should default to a Battle Tank.
Too expensive - The 167 point starting cost should include a Leman Russ . You should only have to pay for the weapon options. Currently it makes you pay for a whole tank. A TC with a standard Russ (Battlecannon, lascannon, 2 x heavy bolters) should cost 225pts - presently he costs 392pts
Cost is all wrong - should start out as 177 plus weapons. Currently starts at 185 plus the cost of a whole tank.
No option for sponson weapons
Pask with a Battlecannon and Lascannon (currently there's no options for Heavy Bolters) should cost 219 pts - presently he costs 386pts
Tank Orders text is incorrect - Pask is able to give orders to a Character (although the Knight Commander rules text is correct)
Bullgryns are missing some options. They should be able to take a Grenadier Gauntlet & Bruteshield or a Power Maul and Slabshield. Also, it's not an ordianry Power Maul. It is a bullgryn maul.
Ratlings should be grouped. They have no options. Make their sniper rifle collective.
Master of Ordnance had no power point cost. Should be 2.
Description: Dark Angel List. Deathwing Terminators. The heavy weapon option for a Cyclone and a Storm Bolter causes my TH/SS terminator to have a Storm Bolter as well. I need those two points... :p
entry, group, profile, rule, modifier, condition etc. all refer to constructs found in cats and gst
The key words “MUST”, “MUST NOT”, “REQUIRED”, “SHALL”, “SHALL NOT”, “SHOULD”, “SHOULD NOT”, “RECOMMENDED”, “MAY”, and “OPTIONAL” in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
Guidelines
Gst MUST NOT contain shared wargear entries, only profiles and rules for them. Different factions have differently priced things, no reason to make errors easier while changing values in future. Shared entries in gst (for wargear) are a bad idea. Profiles and rules (inlc. abilities) are ok, but wargear has so differing point costs, usage etc. every catalogue should define them separately (again, entries - they'd link to gst profiles and rules).
Catalogues SHOULD define all profiles and rules as shared and link to them where needed.
Catalogues MAY define shared entries for wargear that's used in multiple places in the same way.
Catalogues MUST define units as shared entries to be available for other purposes like validation etc.
Catalogues MUST link to shared entries that represent selectable choices and assign appropriate categories to these links.
Unaligned units MAY have gst shared entries and selection entry links.
Units with more than one top-faction keyword MAY have gst shared entries but MAY NOT have selection entry links [in the gst].
Non-Unaligned units MUST NOT have gst shared entries and selection entry links.
Sergeant/model choice RECOMMENDED implementation: an entry group named 'Members (min-max)' or similar with constraint on it min/max like datasheet says, commonly sergeant 0-1 and normal guys (min-1)-max. Validation is easier and roster edit view is nicer.
Units SHOULD be implemented in such a way that when adding unit to roster, it is a valid choice (no errors/warnings raised) and also resembles as close as possible the choice as presented by default in unit's datasheet.
Catalogues MUST be named according to following conventions. Faction refers to the most generic faction keyword shared by all units in catalogue, Sub-Faction is the most specific faction keyword shared by all units in catalogue. The template shown is for internal catalogue name, and should have .cat suffix for filename (don't use underscores).
{Faction} - use when there is no sub-faction (e.g. Tyranids, Necrons, Orks).
{Faction} - {Sub-Faction} - use for any catalogues which contain units from Faction's subfaction (e.g. Chaos, Imperium, Aeldari, Tyranids in case of Cults).
{Faction} - FW {Sub-Faction} - use when creating a separate catalogue for units published by Forge World.
Note that it is perfectly possible to have catalogue with just top faction and another with a subfaction within that faction, the perfect example being Tyranids who have the "main" catalogue, and a subfaction catalogue for Genestealer Cults.
Forge World publications SHOULD be incorporated into existing catalogues if they do not introduce new subfaction requiring it's own file.
Root selection entries SHOULD NOT be hidden by default - it obstructs discoverability and hinders UX; instead when invalid configuration occurs, a warning should be raised.
Forge World units SHOULD be considered mainline and not be tagged specifically (so no [FW] prefixes or suffixes, or similar) - instead, reference the source in unit profile's book field.
Fluffy intro:
Ok so I think we should have some guidelines to standardize our catalogues come 8th edition. There were some suggestions that BS cats for 40k are very different in usage and one must learn every catalogue separately.
I think we should work on these guidelines and if resources allow, align our existing efforts to them before launch. I admit I've wanted to do it for quite some time now, but never made the first step. Better late than later right? :D
I hope we'll work out something that fits all of us (as far as that'll be possible) and provides the finest user experience we can provide.
Archon: Members is misspelled as Memebers in Court of the Archon. 36e8e80
Succubus: Needs Splinter pistol set as default ranged weapon. 36e8e80
Succubus: Missing "Lightning Dodge" and "No Escape" abilities. 36e8e80
Kabalite Warriors: PL increments are incorrect. As I understand it, PL should increase once minimum is exceeded, not when maximum is reached. i.e. 1 Sybarite + 4 Warriors is 3 PL, 1 Sybarite + 5 Warriors should be 5 PL. 36e8e80
Kabalite Warriors: Heavy Weapon naming looks bad on roster. Add a modifier to fix the name when it is selected? 36e8e80
Wracks: Should Acothyst's Haemonculus tools be 0-1 as he has to swap them for his Weapons of Torture option as per RAW? As the Acothyst has no ranged weapon, how can he swap it for Tools of Torment which is required RAW? I suggest RAI is that he swaps Haemonculus tools for one of the other options. Would need adding to #3748.
Wyches: Unit size should be 5-20, not 5-15. 36e8e80
Beastmaster: Adding Khymerae pairs does not increment PL. 36e8e80
Beastmaster: The Khymerae have a 5+ inv save, but the Beastmaster does not gain it, The way this is currently implemented makes it look as if he does when you add them as his free unit. Not sure how/whether this can be fixed.
Grotesques: Grotesque with Weapons of Torture needn't have weapon options other than Weapons of Torture. He can't replace his Monstrous Cleaver with both a Liquifier Gun and a Weapon of Torture at the same time.
Hekatrix Bloodbrides: Same PL increment issue as with Kabalite Warriors. 36e8e80
Incubi: Klaivex should have Klaive as default weapon. 36e8e80
Incubi: Incubi Model entry should be Max 9 Selections in Parent (currently 10 which causes a validation error). 36e8e80
Kabalite Trueborn: Kabalite Trueborn should be max 19. 36e8e80
Mandrakes: Should be 9 PL at 6+ models, not 10. 36e8e80
Mandrakes: Should be "any of your Movement Phases" in From Out of the Shadows description. Also a missing whitespace in "at least 9"away from". 36e8e80
Sslyth: Sslyth who are included in the Court of the Archon have the same problem as with Khymerae for the Beastmaster, in that the way rules are grouped implies that the Archon (and any other models in the "unit") get a 5+ save.
Reaver: Individual Reaver upgrades should be max 1 per parent. Also, conceivably any Reaver can take them, so they should be included on the Special Weapons Reavers as well.
Scourge: Solarite Melee weapons should only be available if the model selects a pistol.
Cronos: Selection has no unit size, should be 1-3. 36e8e80
Cronos: Spirit Syphon should be "hit its target" in the Description. 36e8e80
Ravager: All weapon options should default to Dark Lance. 36e8e80
Ravager: Night Shield description should not have restriction to ranged weapons only according to RAW. However, other instances of this equipment do have the restriction, so it's possibly a typo.
Talos: PL does not scale as unit size increases. 36e8e80
Talos: Only 1 macro-scalpel should be replaced by an alternative weapon, not both.
Talos: Twin liquifier gun should be "determine its AP" and "hits its target" in the description. 36e8e80
Voidraven: Missing whitespace in Void Mine description "maximum of 10D6" 36e8e80
Raider: Weapon should default to Dark Lance. 36e8e80
Raider; Open-topped description should be "apply to its passengers". 36e8e80
Dark Lance: It would seem neater to use a modifier to change the weapon type if it's equipped on a relevant vehicle rather than relying solely on the ability text to remind the player.
Description: Tactical Squads may take either a Heavy or a Special weapon at less than 10 members. Currently, a list error shows up when outfitting a marine with a heavy weapon while under full strength.
Description: Lord Castellan Creed is having multiple errors reported: "Lord Castellan Creed has 1 too many selections of Hot-shot Laspistol (maximum 1)" when value is changed to 1 error is report "must have 1 more selections of Hot-shot Laspistol (minimum 2) when two are selected."
Description: Some units (like Skitarii Rangers/Skitarii Vanguard) can replace their default weapon on other, but now weapon not replaced just new weapon added.
Description: The Autarch shouldn't have to pay for the Forceshield as it is not listed as wargear for him in the index, merely as an ability. While this seems counter intuitive, RAW it isn't wargear for him and instead is an ability like warlock/farseer/spiritseer rune armour.
A tactical squad of less than 10 models may have 1 special or 1 heavy weapon, when you make a 5 man unit with a special, battlescribe says it is an error.
Description: The Canticles of the Omnissiah text is improperly formatted leading to a mess of formatting tags rather than a proper table. Image attached -- same issue on Desktop ( Win10 ) and android
Description: Sky Claw pack leader can take melee weapons but has no options for them in your app. The wolf Guard pack leader for blood claws should be 16 points and not 13. The wolf Guard Sky leader should be 21 points and not 31.
Whilst working on the data files, the authors have noticed some peculiar things thing that we assume are going to be amended with the official release of 8th edition.
Location
Assumed Amendment
Imperium 1
Twin Icarus Lascannon should be Heavy 2
Imperium 2 (p78)
First row of damage table should be 6-11+
Imperium 2 (p94)
Celestine should be maximum 1 per army
Imperium 1 (p203)
Terminus Ultra not specifying if it's points include wargear (assumed resolution - it doesn't * )
Imperium 1 (unknown)
Space Wolf Skyclaws don't have Jump Packs listed in their wargear. I'm assuming this is a mistake given the content of the rest of the datasheet
Xenos 1 (p21 & p22)
What happens when a Warlock Conclave that numbers between 4 and 6 models casts Smite? 1-3 = one mortal wound, 7-10 = D6 mortal wounds, nothing noted for 4-6. Should be D3?
Xenos 2 (pg132)
Unit size of Runtherd (1-3) differs from datasheet (1). Side with the Dataslate (1)
Xenos 2 (pg132)
Unit size of Deffkopta (1-3) differs from datasheet (1-5). Side with the Dataslate (1-5)
Xenos 2 (pg 28)
Deffkopta's Kustom Mega-Blasta has a slightly different wording than other instances of that weapon, and the profile on pg134. I assumed it was the same as other instances of that wargear.
Xenos 1 (pg No. Unknown)
Hellions do not have a keyword preventing them boarding transports (they are Drukhari Infantry). I assume this is an error and they will be given the "Jet Pack" special rule or something similar. Either that or the Venom / Raider Transport text will be updated to disallow keyword FLY or similar.
Imperium 1 (pg 220)
The unit size of Deathwatch Bikers in the points list (1-5) differs from the unit size in the dataslate (3-6). I went with the dataslate (3-6).
Imperium 1 (pg 220)
The unit size of Deathwatch Vanguard Vets in the points list (1-5) differs from the unit size in the dataslate (5-10). I went with the dataslate (5-10).
Imperium 1 (pg 220)
The unit size of Deathwatch Terminators in the points list (1-5) differs from the unit size in the dataslate (5-10). I went with the dataslate (5-10).
Imperium 1 (pg unknown, Dark Angels section)
The Nephalim Jetfighter datasheet lists the "Blacksword Missile Launcher" as being Heavy 1, but the ranged weapons wargear list lists it as Heavy 10. Assumed to be Heavy 1.
Imperium 1
Deathwing terminators can replace all weapons with a selection of options, e.g. twin lighting claws. They then can take an item from the heavy weapons list. You end up with a lightning clawed terminator that also wields an assault cannon. In earlier versions you had to replace your storm bolter, however this restriction just is not there anymore.
Index Imperium 1 pg 40 (and various other locations)
Lightning Claws - combi-bolter may be swapped for 1 lightning claw, then power fist may be swapped for another. Single lightning claws are 9pts but a pair is only 13pts. Even though these are equipped individually, once finished the model is equipped with a pair of LCs so 13pts seems the most likely cost.
Index Xenos 1
Lelith Hesperax has a weapon option in her profile. Her points cost is listed as including wargear. Would she add 5 points for taking an Impaler? My assumption is no as the impaler and penetrating blades seem about equal.
Index Xenos 1
The Ravager's Night Shield does not have the restriction to Ranged Weapons only. Given that every other instance of Night Shield does, this is probably a typo. The Drukhari cat includes the restriction.
Index Xenos 1
RAW, the Acothyst in a unit of Wracks can take Tools of Torment. However, Tools of Torment states you must replace a ranged weapon, which the Acothyst does not have. Assume that he must replace his Haemonculus tools instead?
FW Chaos Index Pg 54
Spined Chaos Beast lists different powers for Khorne and Tzeentch keywords than are listed in datasheet. Assumed Khorne gets Unstoppable Ferocity instead of BftBG and Tzeentch gets Ephemeral Form instead of Architects of Fate, neither of which are listed in the book.
Description: There is an issue with the HTML formatting for the Combat Drugs and Power from Pain force rules. Line breaks are not rendered properly and instead "<br/>" is shown.
Description: There is no heavy flamer option for Veterans. Should be a 17 (+6 for the model) point upgrade in addition to the 3 special weapons slots. Thanks!
Description: The Tau Empire List is wrong on the TX4 Piranha it says max unit is 4 but it is 5 and is reporting a list error when you build a unit of 5
The new rules allow all psykers to choose the power or powers they know instead of rolling randomly. Might it be a good idea to add psychic powers as a new type of 'wargear,' and allow psychic units to select their power(s) from within the list?
Description: For the Chaos Daemons Faction the HQ choice Kairos Fateweaver is shown to have the Oracle of Eternity that confers a 4++ invulnerable save. He had that in the old 7th ed but he does not have that in the new 8th edition.
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