Feature Request: Possible to trigger new templated note WITHOUT using a hotkey or command? about obsidian-hotkeys-for-templates HOT 9 CLOSED

I would need to change an internal function in Obsidian, which I really don't want to. It could cause some strange side effects. And adding an extra command for this, is not enough, because there are many ways to create a new file.

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Ah okay, thanks for the heads-up!

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I have found a solution after all. Will do it now.

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@Vinzent03: Wow, this is impressive and really helpful, thanks!

Q: Seems you use the same construct as Templater does (react on new file creation in vault). Would this conflict with Templater if I set both to "Trigger on new file creation"?

Because I have a Templater variable in there (<% tp.file.title %> for first header) that worked before and now always shows "Untitled". Wonder if this is due to "who is first in the chain to handle an event" … It gets expanded, so I assume both of you correctly pass on so the next event handler can take it.

(And thanks for adding that switch!)

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@Vinzent03: Another find:

I naively expected "Folder" to mean "this and all its subfolders", so if I have

• folder "People" assigned to "Template A"
• folder "People/Friends & Family" assigned to "Template B"

the following would happen:

• New note in "People" → Template A
• New note in "People/Notable" → Template A
• New note in "People/Friends & Family" → Template B (instead of Template A, because the definition is more specific)

This is from a usability standpoint: I may have, say, a "People" folder with "Friends & Family" and "Notable" subfolders. I would want to use the same template (A) for all kinds of "People", even if I created many new subfolders (without having to specify them all). Or I might rename a few subfolders and wouldn’t have to re-specify them all.

Then I would need a special Template (B) for "People/Friends & Family", so I specify it in settings. This would be applied instead of template A because the path is more specific. And it would also work for subfolders within "People/Friends & Family".

Could this be done? I guess some people might be quite happy about it. :-) (Yes, me too!)
Path "specificity" shouldn’t be too hard to establish, I think.

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Would this conflict with Templater if I set both to "Trigger on new file creation"?

I wouldn't suggest you to enable both features. The filename for a new file is always Untitled, why else did you expect?

Will see what I can do for your folder problem

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Unfortunately, I do need Templater’s trigger to be also enabled (mainly for "New file from template", where I need the template to be executed in places not defined in Hotkeys for templates). But you are right, any file first gets created as "Untitled", so using that Templater variable was probably dumb. 🤣 I must have been thinking it was only done after assigning a name. My mistake.

Thanks a bundle for implementing the new file triggering and looking into the path thing, greatly appreciate it!

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Is available in new release!

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Perfect, works great! Thanks again!

Should probably be noted in the docs that if you use Templater’s "New note from template" or have set Templater’s "Empty file template", and both Hotkeys for Templates and Templater set to trigger on new file creation, both templates will be included in your note.

But I’m perfectly happy with that, can’t expect event chain handlers prioritization. And this would probably be over the head of typical user anyway.

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