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Helium314 avatar Helium314 commented on September 22, 2024 2

@JohnVeness if you want to get a few users for trying, you could do a PR in SCEE.

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westnordost avatar westnordost commented on September 22, 2024 1

I figure someone could implement that and play around with it whether it feels right. But I don't have high hopes for that.

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westnordost avatar westnordost commented on September 22, 2024

Hmm. Controls that work like that are very hard to get right, or maybe impossible. I think I've never come across a control like that that felt convenient to use. Sometimes they are too fast and you rush past the desired value, sometimes it's too slow and you'd be faster just tapping, sometimes there is some weird acceleration in it so it seems fine at the start and then accelerates that it is impossible to hit the correct value. I believe this is very hard to balance out, considering also that everyone has a different reaction time and degree of impatience. This is extremely frustrating and I don't want to use frustrating UX patterns in the app.

Maybe it is a personal dislike, but I also do not like controls that require you to keep pressing down while monitoring the screen state to time correctly when to let go. It's... uh... (can't find a better word) un-relaxed / on-edge.

I don't know when I last kept-pressed the arrow-up or arrow-down button of a scroll-bar. But I remember drag-and-dropping things into other windows but not wanting to drop it at the current scroll position but further up or down. It is always an unbelievable hassle because the scroll speed with a file "in-hand" is just never right - too slow, accelerating exponentially, uff. It's also completely inconsistent, so one never knows what behavior one can now expect.

So, anyway, I don't think this is a good idea.

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JohnVeness avatar JohnVeness commented on September 22, 2024

Thanks for the considered reply. I agree acceleration is annoying, but the control wouldn't have to have that. I was just considering something like how autorepeat works on a keyboard in a desktop OS - surely you use that (for cursor keys in a text editor or terminal window, for example) often, without particularly feeling on edge?

Also, please note that I wasn't suggesting removing the ability to single-tap the buttons, so people wouldn't be required to monitor the screen while holding the button if they didn't want to. They could carry on as they are now.

In any case, thanks for listening :)

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