Fished out from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10331008

• Would be nice to make the intro copy more informative. Like: why would I want to use it as a developer? What does it look like compared to my favorite language?
• Really like the examples, especially since I haven't done much with Perl 6. However, like Perl 5, it still looks like parseable line noise to the untrained eye. Would be nice to have some better explanations to go along with the code. Maybe not right on the homepage, but at least linked into it.
• Would like to see the "For Newcomers" links on the "Documentation" page on the homepage.
• This Issue: #36
• The page looks fine. I think the "Fun" and "Whatever" pages could be merged. The front page should probably explain more why someone would want to use the language.
• That said though, none of this is going to matter unless there's a good tutorial. Nothing currently available is cutting it as a tutorial.

perl.org is linked to off the Perl in "perl community" - I would recommend we move this link to be on "Perl 5", instead, earlier in the paragraph.

Link to http://use.perl.org/~JonathanWorthington/journal/39530 from http://perl6.org/compilers/ is broken.

Is https://github.com/jnthn/blizkost the correct link?

The wiki was setup a long time ago before we had any infrastructure; there's a lot of stale information there that we keep up to date on perl6.org itself.

• remove any links to the wiki from perl6.org
• cleanup the front page of the wiki so it has a link to perl6.org (+ camelia if you like), and a note that the wiki is "no longer actively maintained, please use perl6.org to look for information about perl 6"

The div elements with id #col1 and #col2 have a natural breakpoint at 971px. This causes the layout to look poor for these elements.
In the case of smartphones the two div elements overflow the device and are unreadable.

Hi!

There is some information in the Perl 6 FAQ here: http://www.perl6.org/archive/faq.html

For example: "That said, there is a release date for Rakudo: In Q2 2010 Patrick Michaud will release a useful and usable (but not feature complete) Perl 6 compiler".
2010 has already passed, but I honestly don't know about this Topic. Did the release happen? Does anybody know? Otherwise, we could just remote the section and Point to pugs & parrot.

Also, planetsix.perl.org which is linked in section "Is there a release date set for perl 6.0 ?" is dead. Is it just down or can we remove it fro the list?

Here I am, a lapsed Perl programmer curious about Perl 6, and I'd like to see how the language is shaping up. Have you tried starting from the home page and seeing the minimal number of clicks you need to see actual code? I counted 4 (home page -> getting started -> examples -> category -> pl file)

Having code on the home page and above the fold, even if it's a trivial example, is an expectation that most developers would have of a programming language website in 2015.

About this sentence in the homepage:

Like her world-famous big sister, Perl 6 intends to carry forward the high ideals of the Perl community.

It looks like that some people would be curious and would like to know more about these high ideals. Maybe high ideals could point on a place where these things have already been said clearly.

On the http://perl6.org/compilers/ page, the link to pugs under the Historical Compilers section, points to http://pugscode.com
Unfortunately this now redirects to www.myfavouritevouchercodes.co.uk

Might be worth getting the two maintained YouTube video lists somewhere in the screencasts section.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRuESFRW2Fa77XObvk7-BYVFwobZHdXdK for English and other languages https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRuESFRW2Fa6PBxZ8oQhKqV8zZak3bHNN

Presumably tied to recent perl6.org updates.

https://perl6.org/downloads/

There should be a canonical way to install and upgrade rakudo star. The more detail we give here, the easier it will be to help troubleshoot installation issues.

• Have separate headings for each major platform
  • Mac section should discuss homebrew and whether that is a recommended method
  • Explain where things are installed and how to add them to your path
• Do not include rakudobrew if it continues to be fiddly
• Modern languages almost require a package manager of some sort. Include explanation / link to zef on this page?
• Most of all, assume that the user is a beginner

https://perl6.org/community/

• Add link to perl6weekly
• Make sure the mailing lists are still being maintained / used?
• Add a whole block section about how to contribute
  • Help with docs
    • show an example of how to Fork the docs repo, add an example, and submit a PR
  • Help with education resources
    • write tutorials
    • blog about your learning experience with Perl 6
    • blog about a module or script you wrote in perl 6
    • contribute to exercism.io
  • Help with ecosystem
    • link to state of the ecosystem document and most wanted modules document
    • write modules

In "Community" section "Blogs" link still points to http://planeteria.org/perl6/, which is currently dead and domain is marked as for sale.

Should there be a link to Zavolaj on the Compilers page, Supplementals section?

The books section is way bigger than the others.

Preferably, each learning resource should have information on the intended audience

the Whatever page mentions Inline::Rakudo; the readme to that thing talks about Parrot. It ought to be changed to direct people to Inline::Perl5 by nine.

At the YAPC::NA Perl 6 hackathon someone (@Util maybe?) had the suggestion that the code samples on the front page of perl6.org should be runnable/editable. I believe the glot.io API could be used for this and @zoffixznet has already implemented such functionality on his site.

There's about 10p scroll space to the right

When clicking on resources tab, the Documentation tab also shows up as active page.

Marking for Hacktoberfest.

The fix, I believe, involves replacing the doc nav marker with res and changing it to res in in the nav file as well.

Also, for consistency, easier maintenance, and lesser confusion, it's worth renaming the documentation directory to resources as it's now called, fixing the link in the nav, and pinging one of the site admins (I can do it when PR is ready) to add an .htaccess redirect to the new page.

At http://perl6.org/whatever/ , the link to the TextPad syntax definition is broken.

https://perl6.org/specification/ has some paragraphs from SYN01 which refer to 6.0.0

Need to rework the NOTES section.

Page in question: https://perl6.org/community/irc

I was reading this article and realized something. There are not many matrix users right now, and I see only 10 users on perl6 channel. However, it's a great way to make people stay. Once you join a channel it won't leave automatically when you close your browser, in fact you'll stay forever online and you'll be getting messages that were sent while your devices were off.

The link will look like this: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#freenode_#perl6:matrix.org
And those who are using Riot through the browser will have to click one button to join the channel. Those who don't have an account will have to create it, but I think that by mentioning this we should only be focusing on those who already have it.

And those who use desktop or phone apps will have to click “Room directory” and type #perl6:freenode.org in there.

Assigning myself so that I won't forget about this issue. But please free to work on it.

Hack on a Compiler

Hacking on Perl 6 innards is a lot easier than you would think, thanks to NQP, or Not Quite Perl. NQP is a subset of Perl 6 that is much smaller and simpler. The idea is to get NQP running on various backends (javascript, java, moar, etc) and then bootstrap the real deal (Perl 6) on top of NQP! Even if you don't know Perl6, you can get up to speed fairly fast with this NQP learning course.

Everything else in this section, it's correct not to mention Rakudo, but this is clearly about hacking on the Rakudo compiler.

the NQP section doesn't even mention that rakudo's written in it; that could be quite enlightening

https://perl6.org/community/irc

For example, it mentions hugme, but there is no such bot. All bots are listed here: Raku/doc#711 (comment)

The -Ofun page looks quite empty, especially with the new page re-design.

No offense here, but, the splatter of colors really doesn't look very pleasing; atleast to me and several others I know of.

If you guys agree, I can definitely try to make it look better with a monochromatic color scheme, smooth background and bright buttons and such.

$ git clone https://github.com/perl6/perl6.org
Cloning into 'perl6.org'...
remote: Counting objects: 6355, done.
error: object 552c801ce329aab35ec7a165998e114da4edbd8e: zeroPaddedFilemode: contains zero-padded file modes
fatal: Error in object
fatal: index-pack failed

Here are the settings in my ~/.gitconfig that I believe are causing git to catch these issues:

[transfer]
    fsckObjects = true
[fetch]
    fsckObjects = true
[receive]
    fsckObjects = true

Every sub-domain resolves and points to design.perl6.org

% dig anything.perl6.org

; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> anything.perl6.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24305
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;anything.perl6.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
anything.perl6.org. 3600 IN A 213.95.82.53

;; Query time: 151 msec
;; SERVER: 208.67.222.222#53(208.67.222.222)
;; WHEN: Sat May 23 19:56:17 2015
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 52

Page in question: https://perl6.org/whatever/

It already talks about vim and emacs, but interestingly a viable alternative for vim users is https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs. So it's emacs+extra stuff+vim keybindings. It seems that it already has a perl6 layer (using emacs perl6-mode), so everything should work just fine.

See also:

• syl20bnr/spacemacs#5019
• syl20bnr/spacemacs#8493

http://doc.perl6.org/type/Mixy - in "Similar to a Bag.roll, but with Real weights rather than integral ones." paragraph

Apparently, when trying to find a right place to submit a bug report people may start from perl.org.

Seems like we should have a page with a list of bug trackers for every subproject. If there's already a page for this, we should just link to it.

This was mentioned in one of the comments on https://perl6advent.wordpress.com/2016/12/23/day-23-everything-is-either-wrong-or-less-than-awesome/

Neovim does have a perl6 syntax file, but it is outdated: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/blob/master/runtime/syntax/perl6.vim

In any case, maybe it is actually usable? Perhaps somebody can try it and if it works even a little bit, we can list it too.

on https://perl6.org/specification/

move Synopsis to the 2nd entry, not the first. change the description to "historic Perl 6 design documents"

Also, change to "Synopses" since we have more than one.

Main page says:

Perl 6 Language Version 6.c and Perl 6 Rakudo Star 2016.04 Released!

But we already have 2016.07. Can we somehow ensure that it is always showing the proper information? For example, it may be part of the release process.

https://perl6.org/specification/

This is a historic document. We should either be explicit about that on this page, or (better, IMO) remove the link to it.

https://perl6.org/specification/

has a link to "Official test suite" http://github.com/perl6/roast

This link should be to the 6.c-errata branch, and should be labeled as "for the 6.c language specification".

If we want, we can add another link here to the master branch, and label that as (e.g.) "speculative for next language specification" (but it should come after the 6.c version)

at least the perl6 part of it isn't.

http://perl6.org/getting-started/

Probably a CSS problem.

Since niecza hasn't been developed for a long time and has fallen back in its spec compatibility.

We have one active compiler, and a bunch of others.

Let's have two sections; one with just rakudo, and another with a new heading, like "Historical Compilers" - in that section we can remove all the "not actively developed" tags.

/documentation has doc.perl6.org, but it's buried.

It needs to be the most obvious thing to click on.

There may not be enough space without cluttering the perl6.org homepage but a very small RSS feed based on http://pl6anet.org/atom.xml perhaps just displaying links to the last three news items would be nice. I assume this can be done via Jquery.

Any chance of choosing a different word? It has an entirely different meaning for much of the English-speaking world. See http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.ch/2011/08/spunk-and-spunky.html

Perhaps "spirited"?

On the right hand side of the Compilers page, there's a blurb about Inline::Perl5; it doesn't mention the possibility of subclassing at all. maybe it should, though.