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infinitewaveparticle
commented on May 20, 2024
VPN services are treated differently under Swiss law and are not required to log any info and thus can't be forced by the courts to turn anything over. Your gripe with ProtonMail is legitimate though. I think they should move to a country that has privacy-friendly laws.
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katzeprior
commented on May 20, 2024
Maybe give the source of your claim?
https://protonmail.com/blog/climate-activist-arrest/
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papercore-dev
commented on May 20, 2024
VPN services are treated differently under Swiss law and are not required to log any info and thus can't be forced by the courts to turn anything over. Your gripe with ProtonMail is legitimate though. I think they should move to a country that has privacy-friendly laws.
Updated to ProtonVPN -> ProtonMail.
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papercore-dev
commented on May 20, 2024
Maybe give the source of your claim?
Thanks.
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youdontneedtoknow22
commented on May 20, 2024
What Promises did they break?
It's mentioned in a 2014 blog post, which I read before creating my first account:
The Internet is generally not anonymous, and if you are breaking Swiss law, a law-abiding company such as ProtonMail can be legally compelled to log your IP address
And it's even in your picture where they state: We have an anonymous email gateway. Well, that guy didn't use THE ANONYMOUS EMAIL GATEWAY and broke the french law and according to Switzerland he broke the swiss law, what do you think can Protonmail do for him?
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katzeprior
commented on May 20, 2024
I agree that protonmail did nothing wrong and is still one of the best options out there. Swiss laws are one of the best for an email provider.
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dngray
commented on May 20, 2024
Not going to happen, basically we don't know enough about the nature of this person's offenses yet. Protonmail clearly state they can be compelled to do IP logging, and if we removed a provider for this we'd have to remove all of them.
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infinitewaveparticle
commented on May 20, 2024
After reading their terms more closely I also agree that ProtonMail did nothing wrong... And that if it was nixed from the list for following the law, then all similar providers would have to be and we'd only be able to use services based in Antarctica or on Pluto or only ones based in tiny countries with extremely privacy-friendly laws.
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