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weierophinney avatar weierophinney commented on August 19, 2024

The bigger issue is existing validators, and extensions to them. Developers extending existing validators may want to copy/paste implementations and begin migration of those to make them forwards-compatible with version 3. Since we would have version 3 released simultaneously to a v2 with the new interface additions, they could even copy those from v3 to aid their migration.

Every single custom validator and every extension to a supplied validator will need to be rewritten?


Originally posted by @akrabat at zendframework/zend-validator#181 (comment)

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weierophinney avatar weierophinney commented on August 19, 2024

Every single custom validator and every extension to a supplied validator will need to be rewritten?

Yes - as isValid() goes away, and is replaced by validate(), and the return values would differ. This is, of course, why it's targeted for a new major version.

My hope is that we can provide some tooling and guidance around this. For instance, something like the following trait would allow adapting an existing validator to implement the new Validator interface:

trait LegacyValidator
{
    public function validate($value, array $context = null) : Result
    {
        if ($this->isValid($value, $context)) {
            return ValidatorResult::createValidResult($value);
        }

        return ValidatorResult::createInvalidResult(
            $value,
            $this->getMessageTemplates(),
            $this->abstractOptions['messageVariables']
        );
    }
}

class ExistingValidator extends AbstractValidator implements Validator
{
    use LegacyValidator;

    /* ... */
}

If we provide the legacy interface in v3, but mark it deprecated, this approach would allow mixing and matching existing v2-capable validators with v3, providing a longer upgrade path.


Originally posted by @weierophinney at zendframework/zend-validator#181 (comment)

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weierophinney avatar weierophinney commented on August 19, 2024

I think there's going to have to be a compelling advantage to v3 or upgrading is going to have to be quite easy :) A quick check of one of my projects shows that I have 30 or so Validators that would need upgrading and that won't be an easy sell to the client if there's no tangible benefit if it's more than a day's work.

I assume that the trait won't work for validators that extend current validators, so they'll have to be re-done.


Originally posted by @akrabat at zendframework/zend-validator#181 (comment)

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weierophinney avatar weierophinney commented on August 19, 2024

I think there's going to have to be a compelling advantage to v3

One of the issues currently is that stateful validators can lead to hard to debug issues, particularly if you share an instance.

As an example:

$validator->isValid($value1);
$validator->isValid($value2);
$messages = $validator->getMessages(); // $value1 messages are missing
$value = $validator->getValue(); // $value2

The other issue I've been seeing is maintenance of the AbstractValidator, as it contains a ton of logic around gathering options, formatting messages, etc:

  • Due to the options based approach, we have to do a lot of internal testing to see if the validator is in a valid state before we validate — does it have the necessary options? are they of the correct type? etc.
  • Moving presentation logic (value obscuration, translation, message truncation, etc.) into results, result decorators, or DTOs greatly reduces the logic, and thus maintenance, of that base class.

One nice benefit of the approach is that we can finally use callables for validation more cleanly. If they return a Result instance, this is no different than using a Validator for a consumer. The Callback validator can be used when you want to return a boolean result instead; you would compose your message templates and variables in that, so it can return a Result. This simplifies the creation and usage of one-off validators; you no longer need to have classes. (That said, PHP 7's anonymous classes also makes this easier.)


Originally posted by @weierophinney at zendframework/zend-validator#181 (comment)

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