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kevin-bates avatar kevin-bates commented on May 26, 2024 1

@rolweber could add more insights but a Gateway extension will need similar functionality.

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Zsailer avatar Zsailer commented on May 26, 2024

I think there's a bigger conversation to be had here. I explored an approach where the server handlers were configurable, see #29 and #31, added it to an old draft of the Jupyter Server Enhancement proposal, and received negative feedback.

Rather than remove handlers from the core jupyter server in subclasses, I think we need to define: What is the smallest unit that defines a jupyter server? Then, extra handlers (like nbconvert) become server extensions.

This is open for discussion in the Jupyter Server enhancement proposal (though it's received little attention). There's even an issue opened to discuss this point specifically: jupyter/enhancement-proposals#31

I would encourage us to move this conversation over there, as this has big implications on the Jupyter ecosystem...

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rolweber avatar rolweber commented on May 26, 2024

I think the point of the Voila example is that it needs a Jupyter Server under the covers, but does not want to appear as a Jupyter Server externally, in the network. So even if we define what constitutes a Jupyter Server, a standalone application should still have the option to use jupyter_server through the Python APIs, while disabling the REST APIs for the core functionality.

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vidartf avatar vidartf commented on May 26, 2024

I made a comment on the JEP issue trying to clarify the discussion. This PR would address what I list as point 2 there.

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Zsailer avatar Zsailer commented on May 26, 2024

Cool, I think this proposal makes sense then. Thanks, everyone, for clarifying (especially @vidartf for reviving conversation on the JEP).

I think either "default_services" or "default_handlers" make sense.

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vidartf avatar vidartf commented on May 26, 2024

Closed by #84

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