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After converting my tileset to use alpha channel transparency, I noticed that when I zoom (in or out) any white in tiles becomes a light purple. Resetting the zoom level with F12 give the correct color again, and no gray area are affected. Using a backup of the same set before adding the alpha channel does not cause the issue. The sets are in PNG format.

Running df 0.43.05 on osx with retina display. I scolled to make text bigger and df aborted.

New window size: 1436x855
Font size: 8x12
Resizing font to 8x12

Resizing font to 8x12
Resizing font to 8x12
Resizing font to 7x10
Resizing font to 6x10
Resizing font to 7x10
Resizing font to 8x12
Resizing font to 8x12
Resizing font to 8x13
Resizing font to 9x13
Resizing font to 10x15
Resizing font to 10x16
Assertion failed: (pixel_width >= ttf_width), function get_handle, file src/g_src/ttf_manager.cpp, line 139.

.40d13 on Windows. ATI Radeon 4870, Feb 2009 drivers.

In fullscreen mode, my flashing bottom line bug occurs in .40d10 through .40d13. It does not occur in .40d9.
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=28841.msg375209#msg375209

I do believe this to be a driver issue. But it would be nice if you would find a different way to blank each frame in fullscreen mode. Maybe draw a black quad that's extremely zoomed in on?

This line seems to be relevant. Replacing it with this should work:

gps.addst("Select binding, or press " + enabler.GetKeyDisplay(INTERFACEKEY_LEAVESCREEN) + " to abort");

Using 40d13, I created a new world while in full screen mode. I used F11 to window DF so I could do other stuff. I selected DF, clicked F11 while world gen was still in process, and got a small picture (the same dimensions as the windowed version) in the upper left corner.

I get ./dwarfort.exe: symbol lookup error: ./dwarfort.exe: undefined symbol: _ZN9graphicst11changecolorEssc immediately after intro sequence resulting in program crash.

This is on Ubuntu 9.10 using df_28_181_40d17_linux.tar.bz2 and df-40d17-head.tar.bz2 downloaded on 4/18/2010

df_linux$ ./df
mkdir: cannot create directory 'unused_libs': File exists
mv: cannot stat 'libs/libSDL*': No such file or directory
./dwarfort.exe: /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62: no version information available (required by . ./libs/libtiff.so.4)
Sound devices available:
ALSA Software
OSS Software
PortAudio Software
PulseAudio Software
Wave File Writer
Picking ALSA Software. If your desired device was missing, make sure you have the appropriate 32-bit libraries installed. If you wanted a different device, configure ~/.openalrc appropriately.
Perfect OpenAL context attributes GET
Loading bindings from data/init/interface.txt
Using OpenGL output path with client-side arrays
./dwarfort.exe: symbol lookup error: ./dwarfort.exe: undefined symbol: _ZN9graphicst11changecolorEssc

With Tim's custom tile set d13 seems to be skipping a few of the specified tiles. Fire snakes are not the same, palm trees are the default tree icon, and I'm sure I'll find others as I continue playing. Most of the tiles did in fact load properly so I'm not sure why it skipped/is not rendering a few of them.

Binding something like Ctrl+Shift+x will work as intended during the game session and will save correctly to interface.txt as [SYM:Ctrl+Shift+x], however when loading interface.txt again, the key bindings screen shows the bind as Ctrl+None and the bind will not work.

The title screen goes black when mousing over the windowed DF while another application is active. The menu will update when you change the active selection, much like partial print mode, even in FRAME_BUFFER print mode. WinXP, 40d14.

which is not available everywhere.
rather it should use plain SDL as a fallback, which gets used when dlopen() of GL stuff fails
(linux)

testing tissue

if Select Culture (Plump Helmet) on Summer and change menu to (d)Winter and click Enter game is crash.
(in early version (d16) in this situation cursor stand on last culture (Plump Helmet for Winter) if cursor be in Summer under last item in Winter)

(Sorry for Bad English)

The following files are missing (included in random.cpp) :

• game_g.h
• game_extv.h

But, perhaps is the 31.04 import still under way.

I am using version 40d18 on a Mac.
When I set [WINDOWED:PROMPT] in init.txt, I get the prompt, but then it runs in windowed mode regardless of which option I choose. [WINDOWED:NO] correctly runs in fullscreen.

Screen will not update at all when unpaused. WinXP, 40d14.

I'm using the tiling windowmanager stumpwm.

Whenn running df from git-head it is very slow. I need 2 minutes to hilight "Quit" in the main menu.

The console gets flooded with this messages:

Asked for 102x30 grid
Setting to 1022x368, grid 102x30, zoom 1.000000
Using OpenGL output path with client-side arrays and off-screen framebuffer
Room for 12000 vertices allocated
Ideal catalog size: 314x300

When running df under twm it works smoothely. I guess there is a problem with my windowmanager trying to resize the df window all the time. This didn't happen when the df window had a fixed size.

Some of the in-game menus are garbled with the hotkey being wrong in some places, and being in the wrong place in some cases, and both in some instances.

The build menu shows this error.

WinXP SP3 Radeon 800. Windowed mode.

The game segfaults when I forget to copy in the tileset I've specified in my init.txt. Can I attach a traceback to this issue? No? Seriously? Okay, see http://pastebin.ca/1555439

The attached patch adds support for libcaca: http://zoy.org/~sam/patches/0002-First-go-at-a-libcaca-input-output-driver.patch

The patch causes libcaca to take precedence over ncurses if the CACA macro is defined. I am not familiar with SCons so I do not know how to autodetect the library. But libcaca uses standard pkg-config on Linux systems, so it should be pretty easy to do.

Everything could be improved a lot, but I first wanted to know whether there was interest in that feature.

I only tested it on Linux, but I believe this adds text mode support on Windows.

I had a wider and higher window size than the default size,
I went to units menu, pressed view creature, pressed view thoughts and prefs
--> crash with these messages:

./df
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
Sound devices available:
ALSA Software
OSS Software
PortAudio Software
PulseAudio Software
Wave File Writer
Picking ALSA Software. If your desired device was missing, make sure you have the appropriate 32-bit libraries installed. If you wanted a different device, configure ~/.openalrc appropriately.
Perfect OpenAL context attributes GET
Loading bindings from data/init/interface.txt
Dimensions uninitialized, resetting
GPU does not support non-power-of-two textures, using 512x512 catalog.
Using OpenGL output path with client-side arrays
GPU does not support non-power-of-two textures, using 512x512 catalog.
GPU does not support non-power-of-two textures, using 512x512 catalog.
*** buffer overflow detected ***: ./dwarfort.exe terminated
======= Backtrace: =========
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x48)[0x766ed8]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0x765f10]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__strcpy_chk+0x44)[0x765284]
./dwarfort.exe[0x84f85b9]
======= Memory map: ========
00110000-00134000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 2492620 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm-2.10.1.so
00134000-00135000 r--p 00023000 08:16 2492620 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm-2.10.1.so
00135000-00136000 rw-p 00024000 08:16 2492620 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm-2.10.1.so
00136000-0019c000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882235 /usr/lib/libsndfile.so.1.0.20
0019c000-0019d000 r--p 00065000 08:16 1882235 /usr/lib/libsndfile.so.1.0.20
0019d000-0019e000 rw-p 00066000 08:16 1882235 /usr/lib/libsndfile.so.1.0.20
0019e000-001a2000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
001a2000-001ad000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1883454 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2600.0
001ad000-001ae000 r--p 0000a000 08:16 1883454 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2600.0
001ae000-001af000 rw-p 0000b000 08:16 1883454 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.2600.0
001b1000-002a6000 r-xp 00000000 08:01 425519 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libgraphics.so
002a6000-002a9000 r--p 000f5000 08:01 425519 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libgraphics.so
002a9000-002aa000 rw-p 000f8000 08:01 425519 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libgraphics.so
002aa000-00589000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
00589000-0058b000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882420 /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1.0.0
0058b000-0058c000 r--p 00001000 08:16 1882420 /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1.0.0
0058c000-0058d000 rw-p 00002000 08:16 1882420 /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1.0.0
0058d000-0058f000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1884098 /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1.1.0
0058f000-00590000 rw-p 00001000 08:16 1884098 /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1.1.0
00590000-00594000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1883328 /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
00594000-00595000 r--p 00003000 08:16 1883328 /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
00595000-00596000 rw-p 00004000 08:16 1883328 /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
00598000-0067b000 r-xp 00000000 08:01 425518 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libstdc++.so.6
0067b000-0067f000 r--p 000e3000 08:01 425518 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libstdc++.so.6
0067f000-00680000 rw-p 000e7000 08:01 425518 /home/kumma/dwarf_fortStar/df_linux19/df_linux/libs/libstdc++.so.6
00680000-00686000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
00686000-007c4000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 2492616 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.10.1.so
007c4000-007c5000 ---p 0013e000 08:16 2492616 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.10.1.so
007c5000-007c7000 r--p 0013e000 08:16 2492616 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.10.1.so
007c7000-007c8000 rw-p 00140000 08:16 2492616 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.10.1.so
007c8000-007cb000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
007cb000-007f9000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1881132 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.8.466
007f9000-007fa000 ---p 0002e000 08:16 1881132 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.8.466
007fa000-007fb000 r--p 0002e000 08:16 1881132 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.8.466
007fb000-007fc000 rw-p 0002f000 08:16 1881132 /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.8.466
007fc000-008e8000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
008e8000-00956000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1881624 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.070600
00956000-00957000 r--p 0006e000 08:16 1881624 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.070600
00957000-00958000 rw-p 0006f000 08:16 1881624 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.070600
00958000-0098c000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 2452898 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7
0098c000-0098d000 ---p 00034000 08:16 2452898 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7
0098d000-0098f000 r--p 00034000 08:16 2452898 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7
0098f000-00990000 rw-p 00036000 08:16 2452898 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7
00990000-00993000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 3123837 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2200.3
00993000-00994000 r--p 00002000 08:16 3123837 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2200.3
00994000-00995000 rw-p 00003000 08:16 3123837 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.2200.3
00995000-00997000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 2492619 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl-2.10.1.so
00997000-00998000 r--p 00001000 08:16 2492619 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl-2.10.1.so
00998000-00999000 rw-p 00002000 08:16 2492619 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl-2.10.1.so
00999000-009a4000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1884308 /usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0.1.6
009a4000-009a5000 r--p 0000a000 08:16 1884308 /usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0.1.6
009a5000-009a6000 rw-p 0000b000 08:16 1884308 /usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0.1.6
009a6000-009b6000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
009b6000-009ce000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882394 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1800.3
009ce000-009cf000 r--p 00017000 08:16 1882394 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1800.3
009cf000-009d0000 rw-p 00018000 08:16 1882394 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1800.3
009d0000-009eb000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882414 /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2809.1
009eb000-009ec000 r--p 0001b000 08:16 1882414 /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2809.1
009ec000-009ed000 rw-p 0001c000 08:16 1882414 /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.2809.1
009ed000-00a14000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1883458 /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.2600.0
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00a16000-00a1b000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1881264 /usr/lib/libogg.so.0.6.0
00a1b000-00a1c000 r--p 00004000 08:16 1881264 /usr/lib/libogg.so.0.6.0
00a1c000-00a1d000 rw-p 00005000 08:16 1881264 /usr/lib/libogg.so.0.6.0
00a1d000-00a27000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882399 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.39
00a27000-00a28000 r--p 00009000 08:16 1882399 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.39
00a28000-00a29000 rw-p 0000a000 08:16 1882399 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.39
00a29000-00a2c000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1882184 /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.so.0.0.3
00a2c000-00a2d000 r--p 00002000 08:16 1882184 /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.so.0.0.3
00a2d000-00a2e000 rw-p 00003000 08:16 1882184 /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.so.0.0.3
00a2e000-00a30000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 1884457 /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1.0.0
00a30000-00a31000 rw-p 00001000 08:16 1884457 /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1.0.0
00a31000-00a46000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 2492630 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread-2.10.1.so
00a46000-00a47000 r--p 00014000 08:16 2492630 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread-2.10.1.so
00a47000-00a48000 rw-p 00015000 08:16 2492630 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread-2.10.1.so
00a48000-00a4a000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
00a4a000-00ac1000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 3126248 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.8
00ac1000-00ac3000 r--p 00076000 08:16 3126248 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.8
00ac3000-00ac4000 rw-p 00078000 08:16 3126248 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.10800.8
00ac5000-00b38000 r-xp 00000000 08:16 3123734 /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.2
00b38000-00b39000 r--p 00072000 08:16 3123734 /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.2Aborted

Embarking with df maximized in windowed mode on a 2048x1152 monitor instantly crashes DF. Once the game has loaded into fortress mode I can maximize the screen and all works well.

Here is the console output on the crash:

matt@capacitor:/Desktop/df_linux> ./df
mkdir: cannot create directory unused_libs': File exists mv: cannot statlibs/libSDL_': No such file or directory
Using OpenGL output path with client-side arrays
matt@capacitor:/Desktop/df_linux> ./df
mkdir: cannot create directory unused_libs': File exists mv: cannot statlibs/libSDL_': No such file or directory
Using OpenGL output path with client-side arrays
Gained focus
./df: line 12: 31927 Segmentation fault ./dwarfort.exe $*
matt@capacitor:~/Desktop/df_linux>

.40d13 on Windows. ATI Radeon 4870, Feb 2009 drivers. Standard American querty keyboard.

KEY_HOLD_MS doesn't seem to have any effect.

KEY_REPEAT_MS seems to control the initial delay, like KEY_HOLD_MS is supposed to.

Nothing seems to control the actual held-key repeat rate that KEY_REPEAT_MS is supposed to control. It seems to use the hardcoded (init.h) 150ms value.

Since commit 0d7410f the controls in fortress mode are broken. Pressing Left makes the view go SW. Right -> SO. Up -> NW. Down -> NO. R changes the Layout etc. Controls in the menus work fine. I didn't test adventure mode.

commit 1f0219d
MOUSE:YES

STANDARD
No issues.

PARTIAL:x (tried 0,2 and 10)
Whenever I move mouse, all symbols begin to "dance" (become covered with artifacts and flicker). Whenever I stop moving mouse - everything becomes as it was, i.e. okay.

FRAME_BUFFER
Same as partial.

ACCUM_BUFFER
Same as partial, but with additional initial terminal output (once the game starts):
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
Frame 1 complete
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
Frame 2 complete
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
Frame 3 complete
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
Frame 4 complete
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
Frame 5 complete
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:963
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182
GL error: 1282 in g_src/enabler_sdl.cpp:1182

VBO
No issues.

When trying to generate worlds through the command-line features (eg ./df -gen 1), the latest version now gives me a popup GL error:

GPU unable to accomodate texture catalog. Retry without graphical tiles, update your drivers, or better yet update your GPU.

And also outputs to stdout:

GPU does not support non-power-of-two textures, using 2048x2048 catalog.

World generation does not take place.

in Stock when select Stones game is "thinkink" a while, and if time is bigger than [KEY_HOLD_MS:250] ms game start repeat key and if repeat more time cursor select Stones again after one circle and Game continue repeat, check stones, repeat, check stones, repeat, check stones...

32 bit library is installed in /usr/lib
64 bit library is installed in /usr/lib64

the code seems to load the default one, which is in lib64

file /usr/lib64/libopenal.so.1.12.854 
/usr/lib64/libopenal.so.1.12.854: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped

file /usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.12.854 
/usr/lib/libopenal.so.1.12.854: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, not stripped

the game runs, but sound is missing. the other 32bit .so's seem to work without a problem.

Hi @Baughn , at the description of your repository " The graphics segment of Dwarf Fortress ... " there is a link " http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=28841. " which doesn't work anymore:

Not Found
The requested document was not found on this server.

Web Server at bay12games.com

But I discovered a way to fix it! Please replace it with
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=28841.0
at least for the archival purposes. Thank you

Pressing spacebar to to exit a menu also causes the game to pause/unpause as if spacebar were pressed in-game.

I was able to get it to work by removing the carriage returns in the macro file.
tr -d '\r' < dosfile > unixfile

I have not tested going from Linux to windows.

commit 1f0219d
Screen isn't updated at all when the game is unpaused. None of scrolling, dwarf moving. Just freezes. With any of print modes.

See here: http://tinyurl.com/rcyp3d (first part of the post)

GRID:xx:yy controls both the windowed grid size and the fullscreen grid size. FULLGRID:xx:yy seems to do nothing.

This matters when the fullscreen font is different than the windowed font. I use the curses_640x300.png (8x12) for fullscreen, and a doubled version of that font (16x24) for windowed.

When I switch to fullscreen mode, the font changes properly, but the screen only shows the same amount that windowed mode would show. I can then use the mousewheel to zoom, which does increase the number of columns and lines displayed, eventually enough to fill the screen.

If I do zoom, then switch back to windowed mode, the window is zoomed out quite far.

Files and folders in the archive were dated 08 July 2009 08:02.

I get this error when trying to start Dwarf Fortress using the df script:

./dwarfort.exe: ./libs/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by ./libs/libgraphics.so)

The unmodified 40d13 version launched ok on my system.

None of the graphics from the raw/graphics folder are showing up.

6408ea2 commit.
If [INTRO:ON] is set, immediately after playing the first "Beyond quality" movie I receive this:
./df: line 12: 2659 Segmentation fault ./dwarfort.exe $*

Currently, tile borders are all set to black. The should be set to whatever color the pixel immediately inside has, to avoid black borders on tiles when zooming.

Throws "./dwarfort.exe: symbol lookup error: ./libs/libgraphics.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15enabler_inputstC2Ev" to terminal and refuses to start.