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mikeal avatar mikeal commented on June 19, 2024 23

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varjmes avatar varjmes commented on June 19, 2024 8

Hey @kulshekhar, sorry you can't create any issues right now. No-one apart from org members can, but tomorrow, everyone will be able to post issues again.

I've gone through those issues but couldn't get a clear picture. It would be hard to provide any meaningful input without knowing the technical goals of the project.

Absolutely, I agree. There is no centralisation of information about what is currently happening in Node core, and I'm not the person to write it. But, speaking for myself, I am interested in Ayo because I am personally unhappy with the leadership of Node core, and want to see if someone else can do better.

As the fork has existed for (less than) a day, there really isn't anything to share. I know that's frustrating, but that's where we're at right now.

Right now, what I'm most interested in is thoughts on #2. Obviously, you can't comment right now (sorry, nor can anyone) but tomorrow I'd love to hear any thoughts you have on how Node could be governed differently. Even if Ayo doesn't become a thing, I think it's a valuable discussion to have, because we can suggest these ideas to Node and see what they think.

<3

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mtimofiiv avatar mtimofiiv commented on June 19, 2024 4

Right now, what I'm most interested in is thoughts on #2. Obviously, you can't comment right now (sorry, nor can anyone) but tomorrow I'd love to hear any thoughts you have on how Node could be governed differently. Even if Ayo doesn't become a thing, I think it's a valuable discussion to have, because we can suggest these ideas to Node and see what they think.

Understandable, but I can't really comment without knowing what the problem is exactly. The Node.js project has already had a major fork in io.js and I really liked the results at the time.

It's only natural as things settled down that new problems emerge, but I truthfully do not follow the community close enough to know. I guess that would make me a user of Node.js rather than a contributor, and as such, some of the more esoteric issues with governance or community are things I am not really aware of too much.

But I could get behind io.js back in the day because @mikeal and others did a great job of communicating it all to someone like me, who is not involved in the day-to-day stuff and just wants to write great shit with Node.js.

tl;dr +1 on wanting a mission statement on the fork!

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zkat avatar zkat commented on June 19, 2024 3

There is now a PR, #15, with a draft of the values for this project.

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varjmes avatar varjmes commented on June 19, 2024

Is there a document or an authoritative post that outlines the reasons behind Ayo existing and lists the goals of this project?

Not yet. This project was forked yesterday.
Take a look at the other (currently 2) issues in the repository, we'd love input!

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yuu2lee4 avatar yuu2lee4 commented on June 19, 2024

Bring fiber in core code like fibjs did or merge to it?

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Fishrock123 avatar Fishrock123 commented on June 19, 2024

@yuu2lee4 maybe you could open a separate issue for that?

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TimothyGu avatar TimothyGu commented on June 19, 2024

@mtimofiiv Would love it if you could review #15, which is a "mission statement" for this project.

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Fishrock123 avatar Fishrock123 commented on June 19, 2024

But I could get behind io.js back in the day because @mikeal and others did a great job of communicating it all to someone like me, who is not involved in the day-to-day stuff and just wants to write great shit with Node.js.

I'd like to point out briefly that back in the day we (members of io.js) actually had considerable trouble describing what differentiated ourselves from Node. We ended up just going with "Node plus ES6!" but it was really much more than that. 😉

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varjmes avatar varjmes commented on June 19, 2024

I think we've answered it well, in the form of our values document.

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