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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024 11

Thanks @alexAubin I will try to implement a coturn server

(I don't have a vps but I'm preaty OK with NAT and firewall stuff)

PS: as reminder/information for all:

  • I don't know how jitsi works and don't plan to use it
  • I rewrited this abandonned package from scratch using the detailed manual installation instructions because a lot of people wanted to use it
  • I adapted it to work with xmpp server metronome included with YunoHost (instead of xmpp server prosody is made for)
  • I'm like a one year old linux user but trying to contribute as I can
  • any PR / help is more than welcome

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024 6

Is there an alternative available in YunoHost able to handle 10-20 users ?

It's not a YunoHost a limitation but this package limitation

so when yunohost supports debian 10 it will/should work?

I don't know because I don't know what is the issue....

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024 6

In #43 I've completly reworked the installation process to use .deb files and to be closest of a jitsi-meet installation aka https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/blob/master/doc/quick-install.md.
In this branch, no need to create all the sub-domains. If you created them, you should remove them doing yunohost domain remove .... for each domains.

I also disable p2p:

jitsi_ynh/conf/config.js

Lines 331 to 338 in 51f7263

p2p: {
// Enables peer to peer mode. When enabled the system will try to
// establish a direct connection when there are exactly 2 participants
// in the room. If that succeeds the conference will stop sending data
// through the JVB and use the peer to peer connection instead. When a
// 3rd participant joins the conference will be moved back to the JVB
// connection.
enabled: false,
to be sure even using chromium it will use jitsi-videobrige

For now, still doesn't work, seems something around jitsi-videobridge authentication on metronome. Can't find how to solve that.

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dermicha avatar dermicha commented on July 17, 2024 1

@AkselRocks Chrome/Chromeium, Brave (after granting auto play), Firefox

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AkselRocks avatar AkselRocks commented on July 17, 2024

Unfortunally jitsi for yunohost has limitations (new added yesterday in description):

  • Can only be used using Chrome/Chromium
  • Is limited to two participants

see here

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dermicha avatar dermicha commented on July 17, 2024

Why that limitation to two participants?

That's worthless.

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AkselRocks avatar AkselRocks commented on July 17, 2024

Maybe @yalh76 can answer your question.

I also find it a great pity, that yunohost can't support the full spectrum of jitisi possibilities ...

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supermamie avatar supermamie commented on July 17, 2024

Is there an alternative available in YunoHost able to handle 10-20 users ?

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dermicha avatar dermicha commented on July 17, 2024

I have setup my own unlimited instance based on a 5Eur virtual machine in about 15 Min.

https://fatiherikci.com/en/install-jitsi-meet-on-debian-10/

after that:
cd /usr/share/jitsi-meet/scripts
./install-letsencrypt-cert.sh

Done! Works fine!!

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supermamie avatar supermamie commented on July 17, 2024

I don't want to mess in my NextCloud instance, and it is only Debian 9 😞

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supermamie avatar supermamie commented on July 17, 2024

I just took a 6€ server to try for a few week :)

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AkselRocks avatar AkselRocks commented on July 17, 2024

@supermamie and @dermicha: Does this also work for firefox (and other browsers)?

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

Why that limitation to two participants?

That's worthless.

Because I wasn't able to make it works, but if someone can improve it, PR are open ;)

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

Is there an alternative available in YunoHost able to handle 10-20 users ?

It's not a YunoHost a limitation but this package limitation

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AkselRocks avatar AkselRocks commented on July 17, 2024

Is there an alternative available in YunoHost able to handle 10-20 users ?

It's not a YunoHost a limitation but this package limitation

so when yunohost supports debian 10 it will/should work?

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edddii avatar edddii commented on July 17, 2024

I've found this somewhere... but I'm too inexperienced to test it.

Jitsi Videobridge can run behind a NAT, provided that both required ports are routed (forwarded) to the machine that it runs on. By default these ports are TCP/4443 and UDP/10000.
If you do not route these two ports, Jitsi Meet will only work with video for two people, breaking upon 3 or more people trying to show video.

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MemoryComparison avatar MemoryComparison commented on July 17, 2024

I just tried on a server that has no NAT, and the chat crashed as soon as the third person joined. Is there a way to access logs?

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

I've found this somewhere... but I'm too inexperienced to test it.

Jitsi Videobridge can run behind a NAT, provided that both required ports are routed (forwarded) to the machine that it runs on. By default these ports are TCP/4443 and UDP/10000.
If you do not route these two ports, Jitsi Meet will only work with video for two people, breaking upon 3 or more people trying to show video.

Yes it's written in the readme.. But even with that I wasn't abble to make it work for more than 2 users.

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

I just tried on a server that has no NAT, and the chat crashed as soon as the third person joined. Is there a way to access logs?

yes doing journalctl -feu jitsi-jicofo journalctl -feu jitsi-videobridge journalctl -feu metronome

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MemoryComparison avatar MemoryComparison commented on July 17, 2024

Thanks @yalh76 for the info.

The only strange thing I can find is that when the third user came in, it seems that an IQ does not get a response. I can see the Processing IQ line but not the responding to IQ one.

The processing line is this:
FINE: [108] org.jitsi.videobridge.xmpp.ComponentImpl.processIQ() (serving component 'JitsiVideobridge') Processing IQ (packetId 74sjS-4972): <iq id="74sjS-4972" type="result" to="jitsi-videobridge.jitsi.example.com" from="jitsi.example.com"/>

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alexAubin avatar alexAubin commented on July 17, 2024

Dunno if that helps, but ljf points me to this topic on chatons.org that may give some pointers : https://forum.chatons.org/t/jitsi-meet-petite-aide-de-configuration/912

Not sure to understand everything since I'm not really familiar with Jitsi, but somebody mentions a turn/coturn server which seems related to this.

(Another possible test, if not already done, and to validate wether or not it's a NAT/firewall issue, would be to test an instance on a VPS with yunohost-firewall stopped - so supposedly not inside a NAT, with full port exposition)

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supermamie avatar supermamie commented on July 17, 2024

Just if it can help, the Synapse app installs a coturn server too.
I never tested it with more than 2 users because it only work from inside my home network (I think my FAI box is the problem).

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MemoryComparison avatar MemoryComparison commented on July 17, 2024

(Another possible test, if not already done, and to validate wether or not it's a NAT/firewall issue, would be to test an instance on a VPS with yunohost-firewall stopped - so supposedly not inside a NAT, with full port exposition)

I just tried that. The problem persists.

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

If someone could test jitsi from the coturn branch doing yunohost app install https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/jitsi_ynh/tree/coturn. It should install well but I'm really not sure of Jitsi or coturn implementation.

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 avatar commented on July 17, 2024

Hi @yalh76
Thank you for trying to make it work!

I tested the coturn branch, and unfortunately from what I can see, it doesn't work better than the master branch. I didn't dig too much yet, but from my tests, I couldn't see any real different behavior between the two branches.

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

thanks for the informations, It's what I 've seen. @Tagadda plan to do other tests. We will see.

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plslvval avatar plslvval commented on July 17, 2024

i hit same problem and i think we should have a way to drive tests to find out what is the bottleneck here. I can help, i think we have to find a chat channel to do our investigation altogether from different places and the narrow this issue, i propose this pad : https://serveur.slv-valbonne.fr/pad/p/JitsiYunohostMultiPeerInvestigation

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yalh76 avatar yalh76 commented on July 17, 2024

duplicate of #10

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