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lleyton avatar lleyton commented on May 23, 2024 3

On a personal note, I find it disappointing to see where Wexond is going. For me, the browser base was helpful in the development of Skye and for many other projects like it. By close sourcing the software, the appeal for forks to upstream their fixes and changes back to Wexond is gone. I pose the question: is it worth killing the viability and community around this project in exchange for maintaining the exclusivity to generate an insignificant amount of profits? I say that it isn't.

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sentialx avatar sentialx commented on May 23, 2024 2

I removed the LICENSE and PATENTS files and put my own license in README file: https://github.com/wexond/browser-base#license

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024 2

How about this. I'm going to quote the GPLv3.

"All rights granted under this License are ... irrevocable"

What you are doing is technically illegal.

We've sued them :D

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altude avatar altude commented on May 23, 2024 1

Close-sourcing an open source project? I smell a really bad idea.

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024 1

On a personal note, I find it disappointing to see where Wexond is going. For me, the browser base was helpful in the development of Skye and for many other projects like it. By close sourcing the software, the appeal for forks to upstream their fixes and changes back to Wexond is gone. I pose the question: is it worth killing the viability and community around this project in exchange for maintaining the exclusivity to generate an insignificant amount of profits? I say that it isn't.

Wexond is getting in an even worse direction. It's adding Google Analytics to its UI in the new closed-source version. I find it really disappointing. They're killing themselves.

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024 1

Yes, some people I know have forked Wexond. Will they have to do something?

You should be ok if you forked before this, you just can't sync changes down anymore

You can also delete the latest commits when forking (those that include the license change) or contact the author.

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024 1

The CLA contradicts the new LICENSE, too.

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raikasdev avatar raikasdev commented on May 23, 2024 1

The GPLv3 code can be viewed and downloaded: https://github.com/wexond/browser-base/tree/7064c8003b246ae62fb583a589128fb25932ab79

I also have a ZIP file if the link stops working, just contact me.

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nothingneko avatar nothingneko commented on May 23, 2024 1

The GPLv3 code can be viewed and downloaded: https://github.com/wexond/browser-base/tree/7064c8003b246ae62fb583a589128fb25932ab79

I also have a ZIP file if the link stops working, just contact me.

Here is a verbatim copy of the GPL for comparison
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html

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altude avatar altude commented on May 23, 2024 1

How about this. I'm going to quote the GPLv3.

"All rights granted under this License are ... irrevocable"

What you are doing is technically illegal.

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niilasoika avatar niilasoika commented on May 23, 2024 1

Why was a comment from @jadeastar deleted? I smell censorship xD

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024 1

I don't know if he wants but I want! @sentialx last advertisement. We politely ask you yo revert your latest changes or we (the code owners) will take actions. You have 12 hours to revert the changes.

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niilasoika avatar niilasoika commented on May 23, 2024

+1

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Esinko avatar Esinko commented on May 23, 2024

+1
The rights granted by the GPLv3 license cannot be modified in any way to comply with the license standard.

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sentialx avatar sentialx commented on May 23, 2024

Since I'm the copyright holder, I can even cancel those clauses of GPL 3, because I'm in the control of how this project can be used. GPL 3 is just used as a template here to my custom license. Sorry, but I can no longer allow generating profits on my code.

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Esinko avatar Esinko commented on May 23, 2024

It's not about that you are in control, that's clear. You are just using the GPLv3 license incorrectly.
Edit: "...a template here to my custom license." If you are using a "custom" license, you cannot call it GPLv3, if nothing else, that should be corrected.

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raikasdev avatar raikasdev commented on May 23, 2024

You call your project open source, which it is not in that case.
Also in your CLA you say that contributed code is licensed in GPLv3:
In return, the General Developer shall reference you as a contributor to the open source code version of the Code Project that is currently distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPLv3)..
So is the code licensed under GPLv3 or not?
License changes also cannot be enforced on older copies of the software.

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EuriNaiz avatar EuriNaiz commented on May 23, 2024

I just want to clarify the things.

  1. GPLv3 give us the right to use patents, in fact that and the Anti-Tivoization were the improvements in respect to GPLv2
  2. Guys, you CAN still USE the code non modified after the license removal, the GPL is not revocable.
  3. You SHOULD delete all contributions done under the GPLv3, or ask the copyright rights, you cannot re-license the contributions, that code IS NOT your propriety. Do you want to change the license? Ok, Delete ALL the contributions because they are still under GPLv3 and YOU CANNOT CHANGE the license because YOU AREN'T the AUTHOR.
  4. The GPL cannot be modified, you can use it as a template to create your own license, but you cannot call it GPL or suggest some affiliation with the GNU project or the Free Software Foundation
  5. Consider using the GPLv2, it hasn't got the patents clause and the protections Anti-Tivoization, but it only applies for code that you own the copyright.
  6. Guys, Don't allow relicence your commits, if you contribute a GPL proyect, your changes should keep under the GPL or removed.
  7. Guys, please, use the Sysbase Open Watcom Public License, AGPLv3 or GPLv3, they are the safest licences, you can be sure that the software will keep Libre or at least Open.
  8. Guys, remember, this software (excluding the 3rd commits, 3rd commits are GPLv3) are now closed source/proprietary software, please prefer other proyects like Firefox or DotHQ or WaterFox, they are still libres/open.

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024

I removed the LICENSE and PATENTS files and put my own license in README file: https://github.com/wexond/browser-base#license

So does that mean that we can't freely fork Wexond now? What about the already existent forks based on older source code?

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niilasoika avatar niilasoika commented on May 23, 2024

Yes, some people I know have forked Wexond. Will they have to do something?

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nothingneko avatar nothingneko commented on May 23, 2024

Yes, some people I know have forked Wexond. Will they have to do something?

You should be ok if you forked before this, you just can't sync changes down anymore

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024

If the author of this repository changes the git history at any time, there are multiple ways to see the history.

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sentialx avatar sentialx commented on May 23, 2024

We don't post cringe here, sir.

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nothingneko avatar nothingneko commented on May 23, 2024

Why was a comment from @jadeastar deleted? I smell censorship xD

Sussy

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raikasdev avatar raikasdev commented on May 23, 2024

License can be changed if ALL code owners (including open source contributors, if CLA or similar doesn't make the code the project leaders) agree to it, as they are copyright owners.
The license can be changed for the future releases, but not for past. If you have a downloaded a version with a old license, it cannot be revoken.

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sentialx avatar sentialx commented on May 23, 2024

The list of people revoking license for old code:

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niilasoika avatar niilasoika commented on May 23, 2024

I think that this issue should be reopened. Just because this hasn't been sorted out yet.

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024

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 avatar commented on May 23, 2024

I think that this issue should be reopened. Just because this hasn't been sorted out yet.

He won't do that :(

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raikasdev avatar raikasdev commented on May 23, 2024

License can be changed if ALL code owners (including open source contributors, if CLA or similar doesn't make the code the project leaders) agree to it, as they are copyright owners. The license can be changed for the future releases, but not for past. If you have a downloaded a version with a old license, it cannot be revoken.
Thanks for saying that. Sentialx is threatening to DMCA Skye and Gitpodium, and has already done it with Dot Browser. He also has the intention to DMCA midori, for some reason.

Do you want to formally dispute the action by submitting a counter notice? Maybe the person sending the takedown notice does not hold the copyright or did not realize that you have a license or made some other mistake in their takedown notice. If you believe your content on GitHub was mistakenly disabled by a DMCA takedown request, you have the right to contest the takedown by submitting a counter notice. If you do, we will wait 10-14 days and then re-enable your content unless the copyright owner initiates a legal action before then. (https://github.com/github/dmca)

https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-policy/guide-to-submitting-a-dmca-counter-notice

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raikasdev avatar raikasdev commented on May 23, 2024

The code is licensed under GPLv3, he can't legally do that.

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