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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024 6

I’ve gotten us on the waiting list for GH sponsors x OC, as announced and described here: https://twitter.com/opencollect/status/1228372194281033728

Btw, @timneutkens, your private non-work email is noted as the billing address for the MDX org, and therefore is on file for GH sponsors. Should we change that to John’s or my email?

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ChristianMurphy avatar ChristianMurphy commented on May 26, 2024 2

A statement from open collective, in their latest platform update email:

Github

A new feature enables funding directly through a Sponsor button on project repos and payment through Github to your Collective. To activate it, you need an entity and a bank account for your project—luckily, we already provide that as your fiscal sponsor! We're working with Github to offer Collectives early access to this invite-only feature.

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024 2

From what I’ve heard from GH (devon, in the original private repo of people in the sponsors program), is that they don’t give advice on tax: you have to deal with this yourself. OC is similar, they don‘t provide tax help, but they do say: we do everything on the sponsor side, you just bill to our (US, in our case) company, as if you are a freelancer.

Tax is different per country. For Europe it essentially means that, for any sponsor on GH, I need to figure out where they are from, and give a certain amount of the money I got from that person to that country’s authorities. 😓

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BarryThePenguin avatar BarryThePenguin commented on May 26, 2024 1

GH doubles money for now (from the day you join, to exactly a year later)

This makes a lot of financial sense 💯

GHS is (currently) person to person, which is different from OC, so adding GHS may not mean OC decreases?

That's the main risk I see. Would it distract potential sponsors from contributing to the individual over the collective?

Maybe that is only a problem if there were more contributors who were receiving funding? If that were the case, that could enable the individual contributors to give back the collective?

I think this is a reasonable idea 👍

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Murderlon avatar Murderlon commented on May 26, 2024 1

Seems like a great idea. I also don't think this will draw away money from OC, it just gives people more options. Maybe they're more touched by your GHS bio than unified's OC and decide to sponsor you while they're there. Besides, people added to the sponsors there are mostly maintaining unified, but also do other things. So no need for guilt if it would draw away a tiny bit from OC.

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024 1

…and we’re accepted already! Started filling out the details (this’ll take more time) but because I already have a Stripe account for personal GH sponsors, GH now connected that to the first org I tried, instead of letting me set up an OC connection 🙄

Anyway, I’m in contact with people working on this but it’s the weekend so will take a bit!

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024 1

@timneutkens changed it to my email and now I can set up GHS + OC for MDX as well!

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RichardLitt avatar RichardLitt commented on May 26, 2024 1

To your second point: if people want to sponsor mdx, won't they see that it's part of unified? Will it simply not show for mdx?

I think b makes more sense.

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Murderlon avatar Murderlon commented on May 26, 2024 1

I also feel b makes more sense.

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024 1

Alright, went with B, unpublished all sponsors dashboards except for unified, and linked all .funding.ymls to unified. Every project in the collective now shows GH like so when activating “sponsor”

Screen Shot 2020-05-03 at 11 16 13 am

Thanks folks!

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ChristianMurphy avatar ChristianMurphy commented on May 26, 2024

Would it make sense to leverage GitHub sponsors for the project as a whole https://github.blog/2019-11-13-universe-day-one/#sponsors ?
Rather than a list of individual contributors?

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024

Needs a credit card / company apparently 🤔

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ChristianMurphy avatar ChristianMurphy commented on May 26, 2024

Sounds similar to the requirement from OC on https://docs.opencollective.com/help/collectives/add-or-change-fiscal-host

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024

That's a service provided by OC. GH requires you to run your own company

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024

Our fiscal host on the open collective platform is the open source collective, which charges a small amount of money to file all our taxes. Github seems to require you to run your own, and be liable, which is not very ideal

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RichardLitt avatar RichardLitt commented on May 26, 2024

Our fiscal host on the open collective platform is the open source collective, which charges a small amount of money to file all our taxes. Github seems to require you to run your own, and be liable, which is not very ideal

How easy is this to set up in the Netherlands?

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RichardLitt avatar RichardLitt commented on May 26, 2024

Great move, @wooorm!

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timneutkens avatar timneutkens commented on May 26, 2024

Btw, @timneutkens, your private non-work email is noted as the billing address for the MDX org, and therefore is on file for GH sponsors. Should we change that to John’s or my email?

I honestly don't know why this is the case! Maybe because I created the org, definitely feel free to update! Can you dm me your email?

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wooorm avatar wooorm commented on May 26, 2024

Alright we’ve been approved for all orgs (except remarkjs 🤔😓), thanks to @Murderlon setting up a stripe connect, and GH accepting us!

But: I missed that we can link all repos to the unifiedjs sponsors account in funding.yml, we don’t need separate sponsorships for all the other orgs! So a question for y’all: should we a) go with separate sponsors page per org, b) go with a single sponsors for unifiedjs?

  • Upside of a) is that there will be a sponsors button on https://github.com/remarkjs (with b) it would only appear on repos)
  • Upside of a) is that people may want to sponsor MDX but don’t know about unified
  • Upside of a) is that orgs could in the future split off retaining their sponsors
  • Upside of b) is that people will potentially contribute more if they’re sponsoring the whole
  • Upside of b) is that there will be a single badge on people’s profile, and we’ll have higher counts of supporters on https://github.com/sponsors/unifiedjs

for example: remarkjs is set up to sponsor unifiedjs, rehypejs is set up with its own sponsors, haven’t set up the rest

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