Are you using this with a full local installation? about nuki_hub HOT 18 CLOSED

The Nuki app is standby for any possible firmware updates, but other than that the NUKI is indeed used through nuki_hub only (through mqtt/ domotica software). Works flawlessly.

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ok so how could we handle the bluetooth authtentication in this scenario without the Nuki app? using the HASS state for each person?

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I do not follow what you mean. The bridge is connected/authenticated to the lock through bluetooth (as only device). The bridge has now become your primary interface (through MQTT). How you deal with e.g. multi-users, the ability to see the locked status and/or (un)lock at different times has now shifted to your domotica software. I do not us HASS (but Openhab), but elaborating on this might be better done on a HASS forum I guess.

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Yes indeed "How you deal with e.g. multi-users, the ability to see the locked status and/or (un)lock at different times has now shifted to your domotica software."

And so you asked to my question, you're using the ability of the domotica software to unlock or lock the nuki based on certain event. Got it.

so @bartsnijder are you using the nuki without the nuki app at all on your setup?

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In the daily setup: no I do not use the NUKI app.
But I do have the app standby for possible firmware updates.

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last question: how can you handle the fact that you are very near to the door before unlock it? is there any property on mqtt about the fact that any of the bonded devices are in bluetooth range?

on openhub or hass we can deal with the fact that we are away or at home, but I'm trying also to get a trigger for "i'm in front of the door" as the nuki app does.

what do you use in your scenario @bartsnijder ?

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I use a few means to automatically open the lock

• BLE presence (of NUKI bridge): I do limit based on BLE signal strength
• Mobile phone and/or car connected to my LAN on a specific AP (+signal strength) (this does have some extra delay)

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The app on the smartphone is not necessarily cloud connected. If you use it without the NUKI Bridge, it directly connects to the lock via bluetooth without communicating with the cloud.

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No, I edited the reply. By accident I named it a HUB. I only have the bridge.

sorry, just to understand correctly, you mean you only have the ESP32 with the nuki hub? if so, does it expose any data from the bluetooth devices around it?

The app on the smartphone is not necessarily cloud connected. If you use it without the NUKI Bridge, it directly connects to the lock via bluetooth without communicating with the cloud.

hah i didn't know this! thanks

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No, I edited the reply. By accident I named it a HUB. I only have the bridge.

sorry, just to understand correctly, you mean you only have the ESP32 with the nuki hub? if so, does it expose any data from the bluetooth devices around it?

Yes it does, do you have an MQTT browser/viewer (like mqtt explorer). It states all the BLE device found (including signal strength). I think your phone BLE will not be visible by default though; might need an app for that. I use different BLE devices as keys.

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@bartsnijder that's great! i didn't know this! I'm installing https://community.home-assistant.io/t/addon-mqtt-explorer-new-version/603739 (for future reference) to check it and I will report it back. If it's so I guess I'm ready to give it a go! Thanks!

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Yes it does, do you have an MQTT browser/viewer (like mqtt explorer). It states all the BLE device found (including signal strength). I think your phone BLE will not be visible by default though; might need an app for that. I use different BLE devices as keys.

Correct, you have to install an app that broadcasts ble beacons for your phone to become visible for NUKI Hub. Also, it has to broadcast a name, otherwise the beacon will be ignored.

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Correct, you have to install an app that broadcasts ble beacons for your phone to become visible for NUKI Hub. Also, it has to broadcast a name, otherwise the beacon will be ignored.

that's awesome @technyon thanks! do you know if it also possible on ios? which app do you suggest?

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I'm not using an app myself, but a Siemens G-Tag. I think many people use the Home Assistant companion app, but that only makes sense if you're using home assistant. Just search on the play store ("beacon simulator"), there are a few apps that can do it.

I'm not sure about IOS, I'm strictly an android user :).

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In accordance with https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/using-github/communicating-on-github#scenarios-for-github-discussions this open-ended conversation is more suitable for the discussions section imho.

@technyon: Now that GitHub discussions is enabled on the repository I propose we convert this issue to a discussion.

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