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ikedas
commented on September 25, 2024
Hi @wfdudley ,
The bugs you reported look regarding a particular package (FreeBSD port) of Sympa.
Please submit problem report (PR) to the development team of FreeBSD.
This issue is closed. Thank you for your effort!
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wfdudley
commented on September 25, 2024
A smart developer would add the two lines of code to sympa_wizard.pl to make this work regardless of problems with the install scripts on different distributions. She would also add to the documentation to point out the ownership requirements for these directories. I guess we don't have those kinds of developers on this project.
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ikedas
commented on September 25, 2024
Sympa_wizard.pl is planned to be deprecated (see sympa-community/sympa#508). In the first place, permission of installed file is described in Makefile.am included in source distribution. Why should we repeat it on the other places? I guess we have those kind of lazy developers on this project.
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wfdudley
commented on September 25, 2024
I think that FreeBSD install scripts may have difficulties with setting
permissions correctly.
Mailman comes with a tool that checks the entire install for permission
problems, and will
optionally correct those problems.
I don't know anything about a Makefile. I install using the FreeBSD pkg
system, and then
I followed the directions in the sympa documentation. The permissions for
other files
(like the sympa sendmail aliases file)
is mentioned in the documentation, and if this was universally followed, I
wouldn't have
wasted hours wondering why my Sympa install was failing at "create list".
If the developers want people to USE Sympa, then their job is to make it
easy to install
and use. I'm a fairly experienced UNIX sysadmin, and Perl programmer, and
it took
way to long for me to get the web interface working, and then to get the
permission
problems ironed out. If it wasn't for the mailing list, I'd have given
up. If the docs
had covered the permission requirements OR if the wizard (or a program like
it) had
found/fixed those problems, that would have been a huge help.
Bill Dudley
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Sympa_wizard.pl is planned to be deprecated (see sympa-community/sympa#508
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place, permission of installed file is described in Makefile.am included in
source distribution. Why should we repeat it on the other places? I guess
we have those kind of lazy developers on this project.
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ikedas
commented on September 25, 2024
If you wish the things to be changed on this project, please write the code and documentation by yourself, and please submit pull requests (see also this and this). Anyways you should understand that the developers are lazy and are not your secretaries.
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wfdudley
commented on September 25, 2024
Yeah. I am a retired developer. I prefer my code to be as fool
proof as possible.
I've got my sympa installation working, though it's not clear I'll
use it. I've tried to help other sympa installers avoid the problems
I faced.
Thanks for your time.
Oh, and I'm sorry for my snotty tone in the first comment.
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If you wish the things to be changed on this project, please write the
code and documentation by yourself, and please submit pull requests (see
also this
<https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md>
and this
<https://github.com/sympa-community/sympa-community.github.io/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md>).
Anyways you should understand that the developers are *lazy* and are *not
your srcretaries*.
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ikedas
commented on September 25, 2024
The developers on Sympa project focus on Sympa itself, but not on the issues specific to packaging for particular environment.
You know that problem of directory permission is the problem of FreeBSD package, and you should report problem to development team of FreeBSD at first. I think it's the best way to help other Sympa installers against this issue.
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ikedas
commented on September 25, 2024
Taken over by FreeBSD Bug 246702
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