Missing base ZH locale? about rails-i18n HOT 7 CLOSED

en-redross is not an ISO 639 / IANA standard. zh-Hant and zh-Hans are.

It is a best practice to use zh-Hant and zh-Hans to avoid ambiguity and political debates. Adding zh increases ambiguity.

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Yes, thank you - that was my initial plan. But then I stumbled upon "By default all country variants (en-US) will fallback to languages first (e.g en)" (not sure if it was part of documentation or just some post) and it felt like "wait a minute is this not working or am I doing something wrong". I guess the omission of base language is not accidental - so I'm closing this issue for now. If I'll notice the same sentence in rails guides or documentation, I'll try suggesting an edit warning that there are possible edge cases where the default fallback doesn't happen.

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I don't think it makes sense to this. zh-CN and zh-TW are two fundamentally different scripts, unlike es-ES/es-MX or pt-PT/pt-BR. What we should consider doing instead is switch to the zh-Hans / zh-Hant script convention, rather than using country codes to indicate scripts.

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Even if the scripts are different, shouldn't there be some default zh.yml variant that is the most common/expected version? Are you saying there is no "zh"/"Chinese" language? Is this some kind of weird oriental thing? My logic being:

1. There is some language (e.g. English/Spanish/Esperanto/Latin)
2. There is a locale file for it
3. In case of multiple countries/cultures using the "same language" - there are "country-specific" locale files (from my POV they can be even super crazy/far-from-original variations - doesn't break the logic here)

So if zh-TW is a fundamentally different language than zh-CN, then why are they used as if they are just country specific variations of a language (that apparently doesn't exist) :(

I'm most likely being ignorant/dumb here, so don't take this too seriously 😄

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Basically if I invent "en-redross" english variation, that is nothing like english. Does that mean everybody should drop en.yml locale since not all variations are actually english?

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Just to double check: am I looking at the wrong place (https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry):

Type: language
Subtag: zh
Description: Chinese
Added: 2005-10-16
Scope: macrolanguage

zh subtag is mentioned as a language 🤔

Either way, thank you for your responses. I doubt we'll want to change urls on the site from /zh/smth, to /zh-hant/smth, so most likely I'll need to do some trickery.

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Perhaps you can try using fallbacks? E.g. I18n.fallbacks[:zh] = [:"zh-hant"]

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