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parsimonhi avatar parsimonhi commented on September 15, 2024

In simplified Chinese, the 6th stroke of 黑 component is the vertical one. In Taiwan (I don't know the rule for traditional Chinese used in Mainland China), the 6th stroke of 黑 component is the horizontal one. As a result, 黑 as a character has the same shape in both simplified Chinese and in Taiwan, but has two different stroke orders. However, 點 is the traditional form of the character only. The simplified form is 点. As a result, in 點, the 6th stroke is the horizontal one in Taiwan, and 點 doesn't exist in simplified Chinese.

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parsimonhi avatar parsimonhi commented on September 15, 2024

Note that several websites write the 6th stroke of 黑 horizontally, even when they consider simplified characters (for instance https://zh.wiktionary.org/zh-hans/%E9%BB%91).

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laughedelic avatar laughedelic commented on September 15, 2024

Note that several websites write the 6th stroke of 黑 horizontally, even when they consider simplified characters (for instance zh.wiktionary.org/zh-hans/%E9%BB%91).

I think that wiktionary stroke order entry is just incomplete (so it shows only ROC order). It also links to this PRC official document: 现代汉语通用字笔顺规范, where on page 230 you can see that the 6th stroke should be vertical:
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atanida avatar atanida commented on September 15, 2024

Fwiw, look at the official document:
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Did you start to see the pattern? It goes on and on... and you can see that, if you want to write a beautiful character, the easiest way is to draw the 6th stroke horizontally.

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skishore avatar skishore commented on September 15, 2024

See similar discussion in #51.

This stroke order does feel a little strange, by analogy with ⼟, but the PRC order is authoritative for this project. I've changed all characters including 黑 to consistently use the V-H-H order.

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