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andre-ryll avatar andre-ryll commented on August 22, 2024

Hi Bob,
I recently integrated Matrix-Vision BlueFox2 cameras into the vision. These are USB2.0 cameras. They have their own linux driver which is quite fast and well documented. Thereby, I could circumvent the messy V4L image path. I think V4L is fine for webcams but for industrial cameras you should check if there is a specialized driver. Such drivers usually also allow you to fully control the camera and parameters.
You may checkout my code for the BlueFox2 here.
Cheers,
Andre

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Bluearrow avatar Bluearrow commented on August 22, 2024

@asctec-andre
Hi Andre,
I'm seeking to replace AVT cameras with USB cameras too. Can BlueFox2 cameras capture images in SSL-Vision as good as AVT Stringray cameras do? It seems only MLC200w has max frame rate more than 60fps. By the way, which lens do you use with BlueFox2?

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andre-ryll avatar andre-ryll commented on August 22, 2024

From a performance and price point of view the BlueFox2 cameras are great. Nevertheless, they are smaller than the Stingray. The Stingray has a larger image chip and larger optics which results in better light sensitivity. You need good lighting to push the BlueFox beyond 60fps.
I use this lens on my BlueFox2: http://www.lensation.de/product/BT3620C/
My camera is mounted at 2.5m height and covers an area of approx. 3.4x2.2m. If you mount them at 4m this lens should be good: http://www.lensation.de/product/BT6020V2/ (not tested).

I am very happy with the BlueFox and with the AOI feature you can crop the image and even go beyond 100fps. Anyway, you should not get used to this frame rate. Competition frame rate is usually around 60fps.
My subjective opinion is that the BlueFox is great and detection of robots/balls works as fine as with the Stingray. I did not find any point where the BlueFox is inferior to the Stingray.

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Bluearrow avatar Bluearrow commented on August 22, 2024

@asctec-andre
Hi Andre,
This combination seems to be awesome. Thank you very much for your information!
Did you measure the illumination BlueFox2+BT360C need to reach 60fps? Is 1000 lux enough?

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andre-ryll avatar andre-ryll commented on August 22, 2024

I don't have equipment to measure the illumination. I am using four fluorescent tubes (T8, 1200mm, 36W) on the above mentioned area. If my quick calculation is correct that should actually be around 1000 lux.
I can set my exposure time to 5ms with that setup, so getting beyond 60fps is no problem.

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g3force avatar g3force commented on August 22, 2024

For completeness: I added a section about the recommended hardware for BlueFox to the wiki: https://github.com/RoboCup-SSL/ssl-vision/wiki/requirements

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