call for moderators! about community-committee HOT 35 CLOSED

It is important to show our community that there are people who are paying attention to how folks are engaging, and taking action when necessary. For this reason, I strongly disagree with the view expressed by @bnoordhuis.

Channels with no visible operators convey a sense of "wild west" mentality that can silence marginalized users out of fear that there will be nobody to step in should they be met with harassment or hostility.

We must maintain a visible operator presence for the safety of the most vulnerable among us.

I'm so happy to see so many folks interested in sharing this responsibility! 🎉

from community-committee.

On a related note: I would like to propose that we consider holding "Operator Orientation" meetings where current/previous operators can share their methods and experiences with those that would like to get involved.

Demonstrating things like ChanServ commands, de-escalation techniques, what to expect, etc.

I am happy to make myself available for such a thing should it be deemed useful.

from community-committee.

I've been heavily involved in this so far and am up for the challenge of onitnue this

from community-committee.

Would love to help. Long time lurker, occasional helper in the IRC channel

from community-committee.

\o/

from community-committee.

I am around somewhat: still looking for work and helping manage two other communities, so not able to be node primary, but into it.

from community-committee.

Typically it is considered poor practice to have a very large group of visible moderators (those with +O and showing up in IRC clients).

As an IRC user and moderator since the mid-90s, I believe it's fairly uncontroversial that the best channels have mods that only op when needed. An @ sign besides a nick creates something of a power imbalance and an us-vs-them dynamic.

from community-committee.

Visible moderators are excellent; you do have to speak with care, kindness and extra deference to maybe being wrong if you're giving advice as an operator. People will often take you seriously and like you know what you're up to if you're wearing the hat. However, I think that's the downside: visible mods discussing openly and kindly and welcomingly more than make up for this and can really foster a great atmosphere and make the community feel wonderful.

from community-committee.

I'm on irccloud and am always 100% connected to irc and I would be willing to moderate.

from community-committee.

✋ I'm often a lurker, but I'd love to be more active in getting to engage folks as we grow our central communication. My current work in Node.js very much revolves around diplomatic communication, and as a long-time event organizer I've had to enforce codes of conduct in the toughest of cases. I'd love to help.

from community-committee.

o/

from community-committee.

🙋 I can regularly be found reading and chatting on both IRC and the unofficial slack.

from community-committee.

I'll throw my name in that Hat :) Seeing as I already moderate the current node.js Slack group (with much much help of course). I feel obligated to help out the "official" community somehow

from community-committee.

I would also love to help out! ❤️
Currently I help moderating the Slack group as well, and I'd love to get more engaged with the 'official' community 😀

from community-committee.

I'd be happy to help on this front.

from community-committee.

I am more than willing to help with IRC-related permissions and likely also management of any future alternative to IRC.

In reality though, I have only a very small bit of focus usable on moderating multiple channels. (I really just stick to #node-dev.)

Another, related thought:

Do we have a moderator group target size? Typically it is considered poor practice to have a very large group of visible moderators (those with +O and showing up in IRC clients).
Perhaps there is some false basis behind that and it might be helpful for longer-term users than myself, such as @emilyrose and @aredridel to elaborate.

from community-committee.

In previous channels I've had the bit flipped for op, but not had auto op enabled. You can get chanserv to still kick / ban as necessary without showing off that you are an op. In a handful of communities we simply had 0 ops, and only escalated as necessary... stops people from thinking there is a power imbalance, or that certain people are better qualified to answer something.

I've also had channels with a bot idling that had op permissions... you could then dm the bot to have it do moderation work. Moderators are registered with the bot.

from community-committee.

@emilyrose i was going to reach out to a few people (including you) personally to talk about an on-boarding of sorts. so glad you are on board!

@bnoordhuis i think we want to give people the option to get more involved and while i hear your concerns i dont think they are entirely on topic with this thread which is encouraging volunteers. if you have concerns about the number of moderators, please file another issue! thanks!

(further convo down the "number of mods and human behavior" path on this thread will be considered derailing and moderated. thanks for understanding!)

from community-committee.

I see no reason not to add the people who are currently involved with committees.
As such, I am adding @MylesBorins, @Trott, @hackygolucky, and @evanlucas.

If there is no movement within the next week I'll add the other two existing collaborators who put their hands up: @italoacasas, @hemanth (edit, and below: @rachelnicole).

Do note that we will still need more oceanic, european/african, and asian timezone coverage.

from community-committee.

Count me in!

from community-committee.

Would love to help! ❤️

from community-committee.

Count me in!

from community-committee.

I'm in :) Probably quieter around Node stuff than most here, but I'm a mod over on Stack Exchange, which I like to tell myself means something.

from community-committee.

I am interested!!!

from community-committee.

i am interested if possible! want to contribute in any way that i can

from community-committee.

For those that currently have access, I've PR'd some info about moderation / "regular irc operator things" to https://github.com/nodejs/moderation/pull/80.

from community-committee.

I've had this discussion before (many times) and the crux is always whether you believe people will be nice or jerks in the absence of a visible police force. I'm in the 'nice' camp myself.

from community-committee.

From #33 (comment) - If we want to add people to #Node.js (and likely #node-dev) then we can.

@nodejs/community-committee How do ya'll want to decide on who to add as mods? Myself or (almost) any other OP in #Node.js can add people.

from community-committee.

Do note that to be added as an OP you must register your nickname (display / user name) with freenode via nickserv (basically, have a registered freenode "account"). Also, you need to /msg nickserv set enforce on to fully protect your nickname.

from community-committee.

from community-committee.

@emilyrose @ashleygwilliams Do we have an issue where planning for onboarding could occur? It'd be really neat to see the resources and hear from good experience on how we can help out(for those newer to IRC moderating especially but moderating in general is something I love to learn about)

from community-committee.

I've been helping moderate the #Node.js IRC informally for some time too, but I was never really onboarded. +1 to having an onboarding session for the new moderators! Would have been very helpful for me :)

from community-committee.

can this be closed now that @ nodejs/moderation exists?

from community-committee.

@pup I believe it can 👍

from community-committee.

If anyone has further things they'd like to raise or continue from this discussion, please ping the moderation team 😄

from community-committee.