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suprnrdy avatar suprnrdy commented on August 14, 2024 2

No need to engineer a solution, just slap a warning sticker on it

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024 1

I'd say the risk is fairly low and it's been a common thing with any radio technology.

However we could for production get a little sticker over the power connector,

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shawaj avatar shawaj commented on August 14, 2024

@suprnrdy does this cause some issue with Helium if you do? Or you just mean because it won't work properly?

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

@shawaj It's actually to protect the LoRa module as it can cause damage if ran without an antenna connected.

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

Fixed for indoor, leaving open to remember to put it in the outdoor's guide.

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vpetersson avatar vpetersson commented on August 14, 2024

@shawaj It's actually to protect the LoRa module as it can cause damage if ran without an antenna connected.

Would it be possible to add a check for this in software? It does sound like an easy mistake to make when assembling it (e.g. not screwed in properly).

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

Not that I know of @vpetersson.

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vpetersson avatar vpetersson commented on August 14, 2024

Yeah I thought that was a long shot, but just thought I'd ask. Any chance we could use a proxy for it, such as RSSI or similar?

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

I think the issue is any software route would mean the module turns on and then essentially is at the stage where it could cause damage.

I also don't think we could use RSSI / Signal strength and run a scan on boot as the hotspot is the gateway so it wouldn't have anything to scan in comparison to wi-fi.

However it is quite hard to not screw this antenna on right and I think even only partially screwed in the antenna is connected so should be fine on that angle.

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vpetersson avatar vpetersson commented on August 14, 2024

Fair enough, @ryanteck.

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shawaj avatar shawaj commented on August 14, 2024

Maybe there's a way to do it in hardware @ryanteck @vpetersson for a v2. Does seem like a bit of a pain for a consumer product. Should ideally fail safe - because well people are stupid sometimes I guess. But probably not as trivial as I'm making it sound of course 🤣

Something to consider anyway

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

I would guess this would be something that has to be designed into the mPCIe module rather than the gateways themselves so could be something that Milan could look into for that?

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shawaj avatar shawaj commented on August 14, 2024

cc @mmilann

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suprnrdy avatar suprnrdy commented on August 14, 2024

I'd say it's worth it. We're not selling to a lot of RF educated customers, so best warn them ahead of time. You can put the sticker next to the power plug.

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ryanteck avatar ryanteck commented on August 14, 2024

Could be above or below yeah, I thought if over then they couldn't pretend to have not seen it.

Slightly smaller too maybe,

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shawaj avatar shawaj commented on August 14, 2024

Yeah - and/or we could just print it on the plastic. But yes - i agree that would be good. It is hidden anyway so may as well

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