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lmcinnes avatar lmcinnes commented on April 28, 2024 3

UMAP will tend pull outliers in. It will find extreme outliers, but this is not the approach you probably want. I think the 'outlier' notions in this gist are more what you are after. Ultimately this is a sort of co-UMAP (reverse the arrows) for clustering, and dual co-UMAP for outlier detection. I haven't written code to do all of this efficiently yet, but it is on my todo list.

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den-run-ai avatar den-run-ai commented on April 28, 2024

@lmcinnes so essentially first pre-filter with hdbscan and then apply umap?

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lmcinnes avatar lmcinnes commented on April 28, 2024

I think it really depends on what you are trying to do, but yes, something like that would represent something that bears similarities to Robust PCA. The again I think you really want some sort of regularized UMAP to do that properly. I would have to think about what that would mean/look like -- certainly an intriguing problem. Thanks for the ideas!

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den-run-ai avatar den-run-ai commented on April 28, 2024

Sometimes the outliers are so bad that it is hard to regularize them, just excluding is easier. For example that's why I like RANSAC regression more than regularizers for linear regression.

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lmcinnes avatar lmcinnes commented on April 28, 2024

That makes a lot of sense -- it does certainly depend on the data and your use case. At that rate filtering things out with hdbscan would probably work well.

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