Complete benchmarks seem misleading about py-frameworks-bench HOT 5 CLOSED

Seconded on this. Or even use pure SQL queries in order to avoid cost of abstractions.

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@stephenoneal @ikalnytskyi I do not find this misleading. I assume that this test is going to help you decide what exactly to use. Very often frameworks (like django) comes with builtin or at least standard/prefered ORM. When you choosing specific framwork you are then usually bound to specific ORM - and this is very practical test then.

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@cypreess I'm sorry to say so, but I completely disagree on this:

When you choosing specific framwork you are then usually bound to specific ORM - and this is very practical test then.

I'd say Django is exception here, though no one force you to use Django ORM. I've heard about using SQLAlchemy instead in some REST API project.

All those frameworks are not tied to ORM:

• flask
• pecan
• pyramid
• bottle
• webpy
• falcon

and you will find even more. I only listed the most popular ones (except async ones, as they usually do not have ORM).

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I would add here also:

• tornado

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No ORM anymore

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