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antelle avatar antelle commented on May 17, 2024

👍 this is definitely a good idea and would be a unique feature, to allow changing not only storage (dropbox, onedrive, ...) but also db providers, also someone requested work with pass. However it's possible, to make storage abstract. I've put it down to Random Ideas page, for now it needs much to be thinked over.
What's your opinion, how to support it? Just disable certain features not supported by driver, like colors? Or store them if format somehow (e.g. pass allow this, not sure about vault)?

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blaggacao avatar blaggacao commented on May 17, 2024

vault is actually just middle ware, it's not the storage backed. vault implements some common back ends so far. Have a look here: https://github.com/hashicorp/vault/tree/master/physical

it does handle the sealing/unsealing of an api endpoint (connected to whatever backend you want)
just like keepass sealse/unseals it's own database format.

The difference is that this api is made for user and programmatic (distributed) consumption.

vault just implements a rest api where you can query values:

$ vault write secret/hello value=world
Success! Data written to: secret/hello

$ vault read secret/hello
Key             Value
lease_id        secret/hello/f264a3d7-39e2-248a-eeb8-c45531d52d9c
lease_duration  2592000
lease_renewable false
value           world

For a complete look and feel: https://www.vaultproject.io/#/demo/0

So this means any value can theoretically be mapped, but this would probably not be sensible and not what vault excels at. The best integration of those two worlds would be a plugin which allows building a subtree of the vault stored secrets (and they basically only do have those 5 fields from above). Through interaction with the api endpoint, the user could even create and invalidate secrets.

The coolest feature is the keypass ssh-agent plugin (currently only for keepass standard), which would let you ssh around the world with the same certs that your infrastructure uses internally...

Alternatively, by simply connecting to vault as the main back end, we would have a quite reduced schema. But which is just right for the use case..

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antelle avatar antelle commented on May 17, 2024

Yes this should be a plugin for desktop app which will be enabled somewhere in settings. On activation, it will allow connecting to Vault backend. Valut databases/storages creation should be not available in valut support mvp, only opening and usage.
I'll dig into it. Good that it's crossplatform and there'are clients for all OS. But support will happen after v1, not now.

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blaggacao avatar blaggacao commented on May 17, 2024

that's really great to hear.

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antelle avatar antelle commented on May 17, 2024

After several years, I'd say, we won't be able to support this. KDBX format is deeply integrated into the app and we're using quite a lot of features of it. Switching it to something else would require a massive rewrite, or even redesign.

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