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vkyprmr avatar vkyprmr commented on June 15, 2024 1

@jcreinhold That really makes sense. Thanks a lot :)

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vkyprmr avatar vkyprmr commented on June 15, 2024

Hi, I don't have any issue, but just had a question regarding z-score normalization. I am new to working with medical images and so I don't understand why do you do the z-score with a mask and not directly take the image, take mean and std and calculate. Could you please explain it to me?

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jcreinhold avatar jcreinhold commented on June 15, 2024

Hi @vkyprmr—for future reference—if you have a feature request or question about unclear documentation, you should open up a new issue. But to answer your question, you can have z-score normalize use the entire image; if you use the zscore-normalize script, then you can pass in none for the option --brain-mask. The script states this option in the argument description if you run zscore-normalize --help in your terminal after you've installed this package.

Hope this helped.

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vkyprmr avatar vkyprmr commented on June 15, 2024

I am sorry. I knew the programming side: specifying none if needed. I was wandering more about the clinical side and what difference does it make. But, I am sorry if it was a dumb question. Good luck for the future.

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jcreinhold avatar jcreinhold commented on June 15, 2024

@vkprmr I see. That's not a dumb question. I don't suspect that any of these normalization methods would be used for clinical work. These methods are mostly used as preprocessing for image processing/machine learning methods. With respect to z-score normalization with the brain mask, the normalization is usually more consistent across a image data set if you use the brain intensities to z-score normalize vs. the whole image.

Generally these normalization methods are used to put the tissue intensities into alignment across a dataset. z-score normalization works by subtracting the mean and dividing by the standard deviation (std) on every voxel—where the mean and std are computed either from the intensities in the brain mask or across the whole image. If the mean and std are computed from the whole image, the mean will be very close to zero (because the vast majority of voxels in a 3D volume are background) and the std will also not be as meaningful for the same reason.

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jcreinhold avatar jcreinhold commented on June 15, 2024

Completed with ede16c3

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