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turf212 avatar turf212 commented on September 15, 2024 2

So a bit of digging later. The dedicated email which is sent out to company managers when a user completes a course has not been part of the system since IOMAD 3.2. The manager is CC'd into the email the user gets which also includes their certificate.

I'm conscious of the system spamming the managers as they could get:

  • CC'd into the user completion email
  • Their own email sent directly

For a large company, the wealth of emails which a manager could get sent could be abusive.

I think this should be "direct" managers only, or company managers only (with a switch to define that). CC'd managers also set up the same way. This would allow CC'd managers to be direct managers and directly email managers to be company managers and would prevent the duplication of emails going to everyone.

Thoughts?

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turf212 avatar turf212 commented on September 15, 2024 1

So - I had thought that this was that the managers were not getting cc'd into the user's course completion message - but it's the manager course completion message which is at fault - which could be a digest or a single email. It looks like this got lost somewhere in a new version. Will add it back in as it's own scheduled task.

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

@turf212 Hey Derek any chance to look at this one? Thanks!

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Bump? @turf212

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

bump ? @turf212

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Lots of testing over the weekend with different methods of getting a certificate to the company manager.. only the iomadcertificate "email teachers" and email others works.

A different email template for when a quiz is completed works, but for some reason the IOMAD certificate plugin won't send emails to the company manager.

completed assessment email template to manager: works
iomadcertificate email teachers: works
iomadcertificate email others: works

external supervisor field: does not work
Send Manager emails (completion): does not work

Is there some debug code I can try to see where/why this isn't working? Are there dependent permissions? This worked for a long time, then stopped but I don't know which update broke it for me.

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LeonidasFRA avatar LeonidasFRA commented on September 15, 2024

I'll bump it, I have the same problem, some of the company manager emails won't be generated (didn't test them all, it could be a cool feature to be able to manually send them as a test). I still didn't figure out the reason.
I was on the 4.2 with this problem, I thought I might have broke something.
I made a fresh install for the 4.3 (although reusing the DB), but I still have the same behavior : User Completion Email is being sent, but the Manager one doesn't.
The external supervisor worked with the 4.2 (not tested on the 4.3) but I had

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

oh good! I'm not the only one, i've been changing everything I can change on a sandbox thinking I broke it somehow. i'm glad someone else is seeing it also. @turf212 , is there anything we can provide to test it further?

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turf212 avatar turf212 commented on September 15, 2024

The other option is that it's the User's email which is being sent out and the manager is not being cc'd to that one - so check that this is the right one that is enabled for the manager. This email template is "User course completion" for this.

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

I think this should be "direct" managers only, or company managers only (with a switch to define that). CC'd managers also set up the same way. This would allow CC'd managers to be direct managers and directly email managers to be company managers and would prevent the duplication of emails going to everyone.

Thoughts?

That would be great!

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Sorry to be a pain in the arse Derek :) Any chance of a timeline for this one? Lots of unhappy managers not getting updates for the last couple months. @turf212

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Bumping up please.. Anything I can provide to help @turf212 ?

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Bumping again.... Derek, what can I do to help this one? It is quite an important one for many of our managers.

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

@turf212 bumping please.

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sgvfr avatar sgvfr commented on September 15, 2024

Hi Derek, do you have any plans on fixing this one? @turf212

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