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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024 1

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024
  • TNC Stream segments

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

updated gage list with

  • active/inactive/"inadequate/ needs upgrade"

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

any movement on this @vlzimmer ?

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

I don't think the GDE index is hosted online anywhere, but I have a shapefile. I'm asking @tcarlin23 and Keenan Smith about it. Here's the dropbox that I found: https://www.scienceforconservation.org/products/groundwater-dependent-ecosystems-data

Same issue with ACE Biodiversity... no layers hosted online https://wildlife.ca.gov/Data/Analysis/ACE#523731770-species-biodiversity

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

TNC Gage Gap is hosted here: https://gagegap.codefornature.org/ . The gages AND analysis will be replaced by our gage layer and Ted Grantham's UC Berkeley code. But this could stand in for now.

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Our Gages Layer, which I think you already have, will be the new working layer. It is not complete. We are reviewing the TNC gages and some extra ones, and making decisions on what to include and how to include them.

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tcarlin23 avatar tcarlin23 commented on June 29, 2024

I don't think the GDE index is hosted online anywhere, but I have a shapefile. I'm asking @tcarlin23 and Keenan Smith about it. Here's the dropbox that I found: https://www.scienceforconservation.org/products/groundwater-dependent-ecosystems-data

Honestly, Val, we may need to ask Kirk about this dataset and whether it is still the best one to call upon. It almost seems like TNC is trying to move away from using it since I don't see it readily viewable on their website anymore (https://www.scienceforconservation.org/products/?type=map) and the original DropBox link no longer seems to work. I know the methodology is on the older side (from 2010), but maybe there is another reason why?

It looks like they are relying more upon the iGDE (Indicators of GDEs) now. That can be found at gis.water.ca.gov/app/NCDatasetViewer/

The methodology and findings were presented in 2018. It's on the SharePoint (i02_NCCAG_shapefile in GDE folder).

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atcuthbertson avatar atcuthbertson commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Aaron,
Unfortunately, DWR does not published the layer titled "groundwater dependent ecosystems summary", which is the index that we want to use. The raw dataset doesn't work for us because we simply don't have time to develop the algorithm to produce an index ourselves (nor do we want to produce our own index - we'd prefer to point to someone else's published body of work).

Todd - I see a half dozen layers on the page you linked but no index (e.g. nothing immediately useable). The TNC dataset is still there and I was able to access the dropbox (but we can ask Kirk too) -> https://www.scienceforconservation.org/products/groundwater-dependent-ecosystems-data

TNC is publishing the interconnected surface water map now too, but it's only Central Valley and meant to be supporting SGMA. https://icons.codefornature.org/

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

I guess I can upload the GDE layer to IoW for now? @ksonda does that work or do we need to figure out where to host it?

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

I guess I can upload the GDE layer to IoW for now? @ksonda does that work or do we need to figure out where to host it?

If it doesn't have a home it can live here. The linked data server will download it from here, but the reference link can be changed. Especially if we get it a persistent identifiers anyway.

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

@tcarlin23 the ACE biodiversity layers aren't hosted anywhere either, are they?

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tcarlin23 avatar tcarlin23 commented on June 29, 2024

@tcarlin23 the ACE biodiversity layers aren't hosted anywhere either, are they?

I have reached out to a contact in our biogeographic data branch. I will let you know.

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Ru Roh, I ran into an issue right away. I'll take that layer out for now. Screenshot of the error (>100MB)
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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Hmm, more issues - tried 3 or 4 times, with and without VPN. Am I trying to do too much? The commit worked, but the push_to_origin did not, so there's a discrepancy between the commit record and what's actually on the server. How can I get those files on Github?
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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

open to other problem solving baout this if still too big to upload after compression. Another open, but not-too-open option could be CUAHSI Hydroshare

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Can I just FTP or Google Drive or Dropbox some stuff? The CUASHI site thinks I'm the author of anything I upload and it's a process to add stuff. I just want to drag and drop and not write an abstract for it!

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

If that's easiest for you for now that's fine, just make sure there's a distinct URL for each layer. (i.e., for GDrive or Dropbox enable download from external users). I wasn't sure what file sharing you had available to you. With CUAHSI you can also just make one entry for the entire project with a pretty minimal abstract and put all the files in it, like this one I made. Up to you!

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Well here's the only one that's done so far, but this one has a weblink too - not all of them do (I think) https://www.hydroshare.org/resource/192b23acb7124824a54112a34560f3b8/

I wasn't sure what file sharing you had available to you None, except Teams/Sharepoint, but we cannot share externally. There are literally no file-sharing options that the state of california is officially sanctioning. Including github

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Can you see that layer? I think it's private, but the Public and Discoverable Buttons are inactive, so I'm not sure how to make it visible to anyone else unless you have a username.

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

what's your username?

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

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Inactive Buttons - Public and Discoverable. Do I need to do something else to make them active?

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

There it is! Ok, I'll just use the keyword "SB19" for now. Unique and obscure, so you'll be able to see everything I upload that way.

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

I've started saving final layers as "Layer Packages" constructed in ArcGIS Pro. This allows easy upload to our ESRI public map for internal organization and anyone else running ArcGIS Pro can see the layer without having to develop symbology (and tells you the attribute of interest). It may not be readable by other software, however (like, for example, ArcMap... headsmack). Let me know if you can read it.

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

How about a .gdb file? I am unable to export anything other that .gdb, .lyrx, or .lypx files from ArcGIS Pro, unless our IT department has a license for an ESRI extension called Data InterOperability. I am checking.

100% of the .gdb files will be > 100 MB. So we will have to use CUASHI to trade files, and I'll try and just upload when we have a "final" dataset, rather than incrementally.

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

gdb is ok

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

I found a workaround for shp.

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Ok, the Ecosystem Management simplified layers are uploaded. These are likely to make it into the final analysis, although nothing is final yet. There will be many other layers, but we need to figure out what they are. The zip files are shapefiles.

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

@vlzimmer how is everything going? Do you feel like we need to set up another meeting or are you just focusing deciding on layers still?

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

@vlzimmer Don't want to be annoying, but do want to check in. Anything we can help with?

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

Hi Kyle - should we set up a chat this week? Do you have time? Friday morning, perhaps? If not, Tue Jun 1 is free. I think I have a better idea of what we are doing now, but i'm not sure how to meet the objectives we discussed in the last meeting.

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ksonda avatar ksonda commented on June 29, 2024

OK. Friday is tough, but I can do June 1 at 10am, or 12pm pacific

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vlzimmer avatar vlzimmer commented on June 29, 2024

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