Speedup the Integrated Development Environment (IDE) about haskell-course HOT 3 CLOSED

Hi @adamrepos! I hear you! I spend most of my time teaching and helping people that struggle with setting up the dev environment.

The thing is, this (#6) is a problem that (in general) only beginners have. Once you understand how everything works (like the engineers of Sundaswap and other companies), you usually don't need anything more than what is already out there. So they don't need to build in-house IDEs.

This doesn't mean this is not an important issue. It's huge! That's why we're doing a bunch of things to help beginners adopt the technologies. We're making this and the PPP course, writing tutorials and documentation, creating tools like CHaP to make it easier to use Plutus and other IOG libraries, etc. And we're also doing what you just asked us to do. We're identifying companies in the ecosystem (like Plank and TxPipe) that are generating open-source tools and resources and partnering up, contracting, or helping them in some way to speed up the process.

The closest thing we have to Remix right now is Demeter from TxPipe. You can use it for free, and we'll use it in our next PPP to avoid everyone getting stuck setting up the environment. I really hope that's enough for now. But we'll keep working to make everything easier to learn and use! 💪

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@rober-m

"you usually don't need anything more than what is already out there. So they don't need to build in-house IDEs"

For one, when you wanna test the contract with the testnet, there is no tool to automate the process. You have to manually create transaction and submit it using cardano-cli. Copy and paste each utxo by hands. That's very inefficient way to test things.

I am sure existing dapps has this process automated.

So yes, the tools are there. But the whole process is far from optimal. IDE is optimal. And we need it. Ethereum, Solana, Algorand has it figured out. We are lacking behind.

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@rober-m

Algorand official tutorial:
https://youtu.be/a25ol9NPBTM

I hate to make comparisons but they are better. You might find something in there useful when making materials for the next PPP.

The nicest thing I can say about previous PPP is that Lars Brunjes is NOT a great presenter.

I love cardano. But currently, developing/learning experience is really bad. Please change that. Before it's too late.

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