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zml2008 avatar zml2008 commented on June 9, 2024

I think this'd be super cool -- I'd had some similar thoughts, but they'd involved doing codegen to write out the builder logic to register commands rather than depending on some intermediate format.

The struggle I ran into was how to handle extracting parameters from custom argument types -- there might be some manual work needed? or a service registry that's AP-specific.

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solonovamax avatar solonovamax commented on June 9, 2024

I think this'd be super cool -- I'd had some similar thoughts, but they'd involved doing codegen to write out the builder logic to register commands rather than depending on some intermediate format.

what similar thoughts? also, I wanted to explicitly avoid codegen bc codegen feels kinda icky to me when it could just be a file with the information that gets parsed, instead

The struggle I ran into was how to handle extracting parameters from custom argument types -- there might be some manual work needed? or a service registry that's AP-specific.

personally, for this I was thinking "if the argument cannot be extracted, just serialize it as a string and then it'll get extracted at runtime lol"

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Citymonstret avatar Citymonstret commented on June 9, 2024

and is much more convenient than having to manually list all the classes with commands.

This can already be avoided by using the command containers. Other than being a fun experiment, I am not sure what this unlocks that isn't already possible.

simply serialize a json array of class names to run reflection on at runtime

"simply serialize a json array" is not a thing in Java. Neither cloud-core nor cloud-annotations has a dependency on a JSON serializer


but they'd involved doing codegen to write out the builder logic to register commands rather than depending on some intermediate format.

This is something I've been thinking about as well. EngineHub has had success with this way of creating commands, and I'm not at all opposed to the idea of generating command builders.

The struggle I ran into was how to handle extracting parameters from custom argument types -- there might be some manual work needed? or a service registry that's AP-specific.

cloud-core already allows you to create command components from the parsed type rather than a specific parser, as long as the command builder is "attached" to the command manager. The part that is tricky is the customization of command components using annotations, which should be a less significant problem to deal with. cloud-annotations uses annotation mappers to map the annotations to parser parameters, which are then passed to the parser registry. The issue that we'd need to solve here is how we'd do these mappings during AP.

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solonovamax avatar solonovamax commented on June 9, 2024

and is much more convenient than having to manually list all the classes with commands.

This can already be avoided by using the command containers. Other than being a fun experiment, I am not sure what this unlocks that isn't already possible.

yeah I didn't realize the command containers already existed. though, from what I am aware, the command containers still need to do runtime reflection to get methods, method parameter types, etc.
it would be cool if this could be moved to compile-time

also, one part of this would be supporting the command containers in kotlin's KSP.

simply serialize a json array of class names to run reflection on at runtime

"simply serialize a json array" is not a thing in Java. Neither cloud-core nor cloud-annotations has a dependency on a JSON serializer

yeah, it'd be a separate module. I said json bc it's a common format, but it could always just be smth custom

but they'd involved doing codegen to write out the builder logic to register commands rather than depending on some intermediate format.

This is something I've been thinking about as well. EngineHub has had success with this way of creating commands, and I'm not at all opposed to the idea of generating command builders.

doing codegen could always be viable as well. I just would prefer to avoid codegen if possible though lol

The struggle I ran into was how to handle extracting parameters from custom argument types -- there might be some manual work needed? or a service registry that's AP-specific.

cloud-core already allows you to create command components from the parsed type rather than a specific parser, as long as the command builder is "attached" to the command manager. The part that is tricky is the customization of command components using annotations, which should be a less significant problem to deal with. cloud-annotations uses annotation mappers to map the annotations to parser parameters, which are then passed to the parser registry. The issue that we'd need to solve here is how we'd do these mappings during AP.

maybe there'd be some way to run the compiled annotation mappers at compile time? idk.

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zml2008 avatar zml2008 commented on June 9, 2024

Honestly JavaPoet makes codegen super fun and easy, and it's kinda the standard for Java APs these days

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solonovamax avatar solonovamax commented on June 9, 2024

Honestly JavaPoet makes codegen super fun and easy, and it's kinda the standard for Java APs these days

yeah, I just feel that a custom serialized format would be "easier"

because, there's not really any need to codegen what can be put in a file to be read at runtime, as no client code will ever be interacting directly with this. it'd just be something like invoking AnnotationProcessorCommandLoader.load() or smth, idk
then, it'd either load the fileformat and parse it then loop over it, or load a fileformat with a list of class names and then run a function on those classes.
effectively the same thing.

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