Combat screen, the number displayed for lightning spells damage is incorrect when the opponent has the Lightning Helm artifact about fheroes2 HOT 9 OPEN

It doesn't have to be "correct" in these cases, since you cannot perform a "sneak peek" into the enemy hero's artifact bag, so the quick info window shouldn't let you do this either.

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The information displayed should be reliable.

This information should be based solely on information that the player can directly obtain in other ways. The contents of the enemy hero's artifact bag cannot be obtained by any means.

Also, the next turn, the effect of the Lightning Helm artifact is observed, but the information is still wrong.

It will only be on the next turn, and the hero's mana will have already been spent. This is not a bug.

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For the sake of simplicity, let's display the real damage directly at the start of the combat.

I suggest that we do not engage in nonsense and do not let players peek at what they are not supposed to see using such indirect methods.

This will also save some players from having to load the save file and replay the combat because the damage displayed didn't correspond to what was going to happen and misled them.

In multiplayer, they will not be able to do this (the opponent(s) will most likely disagree).

P.S. It can be regarded as a kind of "request for improvement" that the game should show some "assumptions" based on the "history of using spells" (and even in this case, all this looks doubtful). But the player should never indirectly receive information that he cannot access directly at the moment.

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Hello @oleg-derevenetz,

It doesn't have to be "correct" in these cases, since you cannot perform a "sneak peek" into the enemy hero's artifact bag, so the quick info window shouldn't let you do this either.

The information displayed should be reliable.
Also, the next turn, the effect of the Lightning Helm artifact is observed, but the information is still wrong.

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@oleg-derevenetz,

The information displayed should be reliable.

This information should be based solely on information that the player can directly obtain in other ways. The contents of the enemy hero's artifact bag cannot be obtained by any means.

Also, the next turn, the effect of the Lightning Helm artifact is observed, but the information is still wrong.

It will only be on the next turn, and the hero's mana will have already been spent. This is not a bug.

During turn 1, the hero casts the Lightning Bolt spell and the player notices the amount of damage.
The Lightning Helm artifact reduction effect is now known.
During turn 2, the damage information displayed is therefore no longer correct with what is about to happen.

For the sake of simplicity, let's display the real damage directly at the start of the combat.
This will also save some players from having to load the save file and replay the combat because the damage displayed didn't correspond to what was going to happen and misled them.

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Hello @oleg-derevenetz,

For the sake of simplicity, let's display the real damage directly at the start of the combat.

I suggest that we do not engage in nonsense and do not let players peek at what they are not supposed to see using such indirect methods.

This will also save some players from having to load the save file and replay the combat because the damage displayed didn't correspond to what was going to happen and misled them.

In multiplayer, they will not be able to do this (the opponent(s) will most likely disagree).

P.S. It can be regarded as a kind of "request for improvement" that the game should show some "assumptions" based on the "history of using spells" (and even in this case, all this looks doubtful). But the player should never indirectly receive information that he cannot access directly at the moment.

After the lightning bolt spell was cast a first time in the first turn, the presence of the Lightning Helm artifact becomes known.
So why continue to display false information in the second turn then?

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The magic book should only display what your hero can do at max. Having this simplification is overdoing things towards casual games.

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Hello @ihhub,

The magic book should only display what your hero can do at max. Having this simplification is overdoing things towards casual games.

In this case, damage information should be updated as soon as the Lightning Helm artifact's presence is known.

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I also agree that this would be some kind of casual thing (some may even regard this as a "bug" and whine "why is it not shown correctly right away"). BTW, although in HoMM3/HoTA there are no artifacts that offer some kind of magical damage reduction, BUT there are artifacts that negate Morale or Luck bonuses (such as the Hourglass of the Evil Hour). Despite the fact that this artifact makes casting the Fortune spell absolutely useless, no one prevents it from casting, and the description of this spell in the book does not change - neither at the beginning of the battle, nor after the first cast:

It always reports that it will increase the luck of the target unit by 1... except that it won't happen.

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