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In my ideal world I would only have a voice interface to Home Assistant
with the app as a fallback / place to set things up. If you're using Chrome
the app will allow you to dictate commands which would be a preview of how
such an interface could work.

To integrate bluetooth you could have an external application that would
forward the bluetooth events to Home Assistant.

I actually use the Philips Tap at my home but only to control my lights. I
don't always want to grab my phone :)

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 1:18 PM, wind-rider [email protected]
wrote:

Currently there is an beautiful and very simple remote control for home
automation on Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802159142/nuimo-seamless-smart-home-interface/video_share.
I thought this screenless controller would be an ideal complement to the
screen-based interface of Home Assistant so I ordered one.

I liked the idea of not needing to unlock a phone, opening the web
application and switching some hardware, but instead having a physical
control in my hands that works immediately for simple actions. Home
Assistant would then still be a great application where all hardware could
be set up and integrated.

Now I'm wondering how it would fit into Home Assistant. First of all -
bluetooth connections are new to Home Assistant (most components are
ip-based).

Are there any other people who thought of supporting additional remote
controls instead of phones / tablets? I know there are some wall switches,
but are there any other thoughts on remote controls? I can think of
Logitech Harmony, Philips Tap, but also LIRC / infrared receivers?

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Hmm, voice control could become a good interaction interface, but only if it works very well - if you have to repeat your command several times before it is understood then it becomes a frustration :) at the moment the Chrome voice recognition doesn't work well enough for me. Also, there is still a social barrier to overcome for voice commands - at least in the Netherlands most people still don't feel comfortable giving voice instructions to their phone / other device.

Yes, I also would like to avoid grabbing my phone, but for me the Tap is too limited, I think (3 scenes + off switch)... that's why I ordered Nuimo.

I hoped to avoid having (to develop) a separated daemon for bluetooth applications - maybe https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pygatt/1.0.0 (or https://github.com/karulis/pybluez when it is gets BLE support) is a possible way of integration.

Why did you think of an external application rather than including a library?

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I would think the challenge to this would be that the device could only be
used within range of HA server. My thinking on this would be to create a
Bluetooth to WiFi bridge of sorts for this device using a Raspberry Pi.
Then have HA communicate with the Pi over HTTP. I think that would be this
cleanest way to do this. I know it is a bit different from what you had
planned, but it is just my two cents.

Ryan Kraus

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:07 PM, wind-rider [email protected]
wrote:

Hmm, voice control could become a good interaction interface, but only if
it works very well - if you have to repeat your command several times
before it is understood then it becomes a frustration :) at the moment the
Chrome voice recognition doesn't work well enough for me. Also, there is
still a social barrier to overcome for voice commands - at least in the
Netherlands most people still don't feel comfortable giving voice
instructions to their phone / other device.

Yes, I also would like to avoid grabbing my phone, but for me the Tap is
too limited, I think (3 scenes + off switch)... that's why I ordered Nuimo
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802159142/nuimo-seamless-smart-home-interface/video_share
.

I hoped to avoid having (to develop) a separated daemon for bluetooth
applications - maybe https://github.com/karulis/pybluez is a possible way
of integration..

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yes, such a bridge would also be an option. Or the phone app should support command forwarding to HTTP.

Thank you for your thoughts!

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@Wind-rider , please use the discussion group next time for this type of discussions

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