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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

Still broken in last version. No reaction here?

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issue-triage-workflows avatar issue-triage-workflows commented on September 26, 2024

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

Still broken

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joostlek avatar joostlek commented on September 26, 2024

What are you running HA in?

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

HA OS as virtual machine in ESXI.

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Petro31 avatar Petro31 commented on September 26, 2024

You have an issue with your VM getting time from ESXI. Verify that your time sync is working properly. I.e. this is not an issue with HA, but an issue with your VM setup.

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

I don't understand and i thinkyou are wrong. HA OS have some time. I hope HA has ONE and only single time value. This time may be right may be wrong, may be different against "real" time. But read again what i wrote.

I did NOT wrote "automation run 3 minutes later after REAL TIME (checking some atom clock)".

What i am saying is "Automation should run every half hour (/30 setting) but it runs at 10:03, 10:33, 11:03 of HA time not real time".

Look again on this:
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I think it is total irrrelevant what "real" time is. My HU runs automation on wrong his internal time.

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Petro31 avatar Petro31 commented on September 26, 2024

I think it is total irrrelevant what "real" time is. My HU runs automation on wrong his internal time.

HA in a VM on ESXI get's it's time from ESXI. There's nothing else to it.

Start here:
https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/312204/troubleshooting-ntp-on-esx-and-esxi-6x.html

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joostlek avatar joostlek commented on September 26, 2024

Euh, it works on everyone else's machine, so it's likely not a bug in HA but in your setup

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

@Petro31
Ok. Again. ESXI machine has 10:03 time. Real atom world ultimate clock time is 10:00. ESXI don't know it is 10:00. You wrote "HA in a VM on ESXI get's it's time from ESXI". So one and only time HA knows is that same as on ESXI. So this SHOULD happen in this config:

  • real world time 9:57 (but ESXI nor HA don't know this)
  • ESXI = HA time 10:00
  • automation is triggered at 10:00
  • automation detail should show starting time 10:00
  • automation should say "it is 10:00"

Again - please explain how THIS is possible:
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Only explanation is HA has samehow TWO times inside and in some case get "time 1" and in other cases takes "time 2".

Your explanation with unsynced NTP time is nonsense sorry.

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Petro31 avatar Petro31 commented on September 26, 2024

Well, based on your attitude, I'm just not going to reply anymore. I don't have time for negativity.

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

I am very positive. I contribute to HA when i post bugs and i hope for better HA and less buggy HA. But when someone say "this is not bug" he has to have good arguments. So "I'm just not going to reply anymore" will not resolve this bug. Please read again my posts, i didn't say "you are dumb" but i try to explain bug in detail.

And @joostlek "it works for everyone" is not proof there is no bug in HA sorry..

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joostlek avatar joostlek commented on September 26, 2024

Okay so why are we having a discussion about if this is a bug or not. You should just not have different time settings and it will be fine. I don't see this as a bug because the software is not intended to be run like this.

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bigboban avatar bigboban commented on September 26, 2024

Sorry but you still don't understand problem. You wrote "just not have different time settings". Different from WHAT? @Petro31 wrote "HA in a VM on ESXI get's it's time from ESXI." So only ONE time value exists - time on ESXI machine and that very same time on HA. Where is that "second" time? There is no second time, there is no "different" time. Maybe there is bug right inside that "HA in a VM on ESXI get's it's time from ESXI" algorithm.

I think best way could be implement NTP into HA. But "HA in a VM on ESXI get's it's time from ESXI" is blackbox and maybe buggy blackbox. But rather than solve problem you closed it. Sorry not good attitude.

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joostlek avatar joostlek commented on September 26, 2024

Don't forget that your browser also has a time which can be used with for example date inputs. I do agree that your attitude is very out of line. You keep explaining that it's our problem, but if that was the case, we would have at least a thousand issues about this. And we don't so this is an issue for 1 person on about a million users. That means its likely your problem, and not a HA one.

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Petro31 avatar Petro31 commented on September 26, 2024

Don't forget that your browser also has a time which can be used with for example date inputs.

This can easily be confirmed by looking at the automation trace. I'd be willing to bet that the automation shows that it's firing at 10am local time translated to UTC, but because his UTC is set 3 minute in the past and his browser is not, the browser shows 10:03.

Download the trace and show us it's json.

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