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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

I am waiting for a response of the developer of the VMD plugins. To my present knowledge the VMD plugins are deprecated and were replaced by the gmx analysis modules.

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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

I will reactivate the VMD plugins, because of the more flexible usage. Although the gmx analysis module 'fda_graph' is easier to use, it is very limited to handle more complex force networks by using the pdb format.

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willwzhang avatar willwzhang commented on June 11, 2024

I will reactivate the VMD plugins, because of the more flexible usage. Although the gmx analysis module 'fda_graph' is easier to use, it is very limited to handle more complex force networks by using the pdb format.

Thanks a lot. I've also tried fda_graph to generate a PDB file. But it seems the PDB file don't have the sequence information, and only generate a network structure. May I know how should I overlap that to my original protein structure?

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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

Yes, the pdb file produced by fda_graph contains only the network information. With VMD you can load the structure or the trajectory as second input. Using the flag '-pymol' a pml file will generated which can be loaded with Pymol.

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willwzhang avatar willwzhang commented on June 11, 2024

Yes, the pdb file produced by fda_graph contains only the network information. With VMD you can load the structure or the trajectory as second input. Using the flag '-pymol' a pml file will generated which can be loaded with Pymol.

When I load the structure or trajectory into the pdb with VMD, always get errors:
ERROR> Mismatch between existing molecule or structure file atom count and coordinate or trajectory file atom count.
It seems the number of atoms in the pdb file from fda_graph is neither the number of protein atoms nor system atoms from the original structure.
My .pfi file:

onepair = summed
group1 = Protein
group2 = Protein
atombased = no
residuebased = pairwise_forces_scalar
type = all
time_averages_period = 0

and running fda_graph as:

gmx_fda fda_graph -i example.pfr -s example.gro -f example.trr -n example.ndx -o example.pdb

selecting group 3 (C-alpha) for residue model points (the only one can match).

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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

You have to load it as two separate molecules:

  1. The example.gro file for the atomic structure. The gro-file contains the reoriented coordinates.
  2. Load example.pdb as new molecule (not into the first structure)

If you are using '-frame skip ' you have to generate a suitable trajectory, which has the same frames.

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willwzhang avatar willwzhang commented on June 11, 2024

Sorry, what I mean is actually something like Fig. 2B in doi: 10.1186/1471-2105-12-101. So the Fig. 2B is actually by VMD plugins?
And since the deprecated VMD plugins, can I take the summation of the absolute values of scalar_force column in .pfa file for each atom as the force on atom? (or in .pfr file for each residue, is this the same as the equation(3) in the paper?)

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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

The publication you mentioned was before I was working on FDA, but I would also say that it was produced with the VMD plugins. The fda_graph is only for the network graphs. Therefore, I would like to ask you for some patience. I will provide the VMD plugins in the next days.

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willwzhang avatar willwzhang commented on June 11, 2024

Thanks a lot!

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BerndDoser avatar BerndDoser commented on June 11, 2024

Please find the VMD plugins in the new repository https://github.com/HITS-MBM/gromacs-fda-vmd

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