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goodmami avatar goodmami commented on August 10, 2024 1

Thanks for the links. I haven't seen that paper yet, and I'm curious how the ALL(*) parsing works. I think that some limited grammar rewriting is possible to avoid trivial left-recursion cases in the same way that pe's "common" optimizations do grammar rewriting, such as transforming patterns like "a" "b" into "ab" or "a" / "b" into [ab].

If you continue the section you quoted, they say this:

Direct left-recursion covers the most common cases, such as arithmetic expression productions, like E → E . id, and C declarators. We made an engineering decision not to support indirect or hidden left-recursion.

So they do not handle the more difficult left-recursion cases, which sounds like a practical decision (especially since they are apparently doing grammar analysis at parse time instead of compile time).

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Krzmbrzl avatar Krzmbrzl commented on August 10, 2024

Not sure how applicable this is to PEG but ANTLR can deal with direct left-recursion very gracefully and from its docs I quote

The most natural expression of some common language constructs is left recursive. For example C declarators and arithmetic expressions.

which is why it's always a very handy feature for a parser generator to support at least direct left recursion.

See also the corresponding publication. From there I quote

ANTLR 4 generates ALL(*) parsers and supports direct left-recursion through grammar rewriting

so maybe a similar automatic grammar-rewriting strategy could be used by pe as well?

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