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foxcpp avatar foxcpp commented on May 14, 2024

Another idea to secure local server configurations using MTA-STS:

  • Check if we have the MTA-STS policy set (try to get it, check if our hostname is listed in mx directives).
  • If policy exists and applied for us - reject messages sent over plain-text connections.
  • Add configuration directive to disallow plain-text submission manually

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foxcpp avatar foxcpp commented on May 14, 2024

First two points may break interoperability with non-MTA-STS-capable senders, so I guess it makes sense to leave them out by default and instead add option to disable unencrypted sessions. Same goes for #50.

In the light of HTTP endpoint design mentioned in #67, we might want to add endpoint to allow easier configuration for MTA-STS:

mta_sts {
  endpoint https://0.0.0.0:443 # can be ommited, implied by default
  max_age 600 # seconds
  mx *.asd.sd
  # our hostname is added implicitly
}

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emersion avatar emersion commented on May 14, 2024

First two points may break interoperability with non-MTA-STS-capable senders, so I guess it makes sense to leave them out by default and instead add option to disable unencrypted sessions.

Yes. It's the sender's responsibility to check the MTA-STS policy. Indeed, we can always add an option to disable unencrypted sessions.

In the light of HTTP endpoint design mentioned in #67, we might want to add endpoint to allow easier configuration for MTA-STS

I'd really like MTA-STS to be enabled by default. It's an important part of e-mail security. Without it, encryption is basically useless (because of downgrade attacks).

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