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alexanderbates avatar alexanderbates commented on June 18, 2024

The issue seems to be the that there is no cleft score for FANC synapse data. You can filter synapses by score though. What would a good threshold be?

I have started to implement this in two branches, for fafbseg and for fancr.

If anyone else wants to finish implementing great - I ran out of time today, but will try to over weekend.

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jefferis avatar jefferis commented on June 18, 2024

Thanks @yanghelenh. As Alex says there is no cleft.threshold information available for FANC. You could talk to @unidesigner about this. I left the implementation (which is inherited from FAFB) in the hope that it might one day be available.

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jefferis avatar jefferis commented on June 18, 2024

@alexanderbates thanks for the work you mention re the plain connection_score. Unfortunately I have no indication that it does anything useful. For example I've looked there is no correlation between connection_score and cleft_score, but I know that high cleft_scores are predictive of true synapses. For example here are the input synapses onto a sample neuron (720575940621039145) plotted.
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If I plot synapses above (green) and below (red) a cleft_score of 50 then you can clearly see a preponderance of red synapses in obviously incorrect places (eg the soma and axon shaft).
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But I cannot find a connection_score that separates e.g. false synapses on the axon shaft from the arbours. You have generated a validated dataset with Imaan curating FAFB synapses so if you want to see if there is anything about connection_score that is predictive, I would be happy to hear it.

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jefferis avatar jefferis commented on June 18, 2024

PS score in flywire_partners() = connection_score as returned by CAVE.

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yanghelenh avatar yanghelenh commented on June 18, 2024

Thanks @jefferis and @alexanderbates for looking into this issue for me. It was clear from the error that cleft.threshold wasn't returning anything, but I didn't realize that it's because this information isn't available for FANC. I'll talk to @unidesigner about whether it could be implemented for FANC, or if there's some other way to filter the predicted synapses by confidence.

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yanghelenh avatar yanghelenh commented on June 18, 2024

Hm... using the flywire_cave_query function of fafbseg to get a FANC neuron's output synapses returns a column called score, but unlike the connection_score, the values seem to range between 13 and 150ish with a mean around 30ish. It seems like the score for FANC predicted synapses might be its own thing.

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