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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024 2

Looks like I pulled the data together before the updates finished for those days. I really appreciate you going through the data like this- it helps everyone out.

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024 1

Hi Tom and Andrew,

I really appreciate you getting in contact about this. As I'm sure you know yourself, reporting methods from the public health agencies have been somewhat inconsistent making collation tricky. I've had a look at the issues you raised and checked my own sources:

  • Re NI deaths on 24/03/2020: I took my data from the surveillance reports here (https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/publications/covid-19-surveillance-reports). Presumably, a fifth death that occurred on the 24th was reported on twitter but didn't make it into a surveillance report until the next day. I'm going to stick with the sources I mention on my README page for this collation but I think it's a matter of preference on how to collate the data
  • Re deaths in Wales on 17/03/2020, I see I have included the report of the second person's death on the 17th whilst you have it on the 18th. I've taken my info from here (https://gov.wales/second-person-wales-dies-after-contracting-covid-19) reporting this person's death on the 17th; maybe you had another source.
  • Re deaths in Wales on 21/03/2020, I completely see your point. I added the two further deaths reported on twitter to 21/03 but for consistency should stick to the numbers of deaths reported on the Welsh government site. I have amended the number of deaths for that day to 3 to reflect that.

If you do notice any other discrepancies, please do get in contact. Collating this data has been a very manual process owing to the number of sources, their reporting formats and frequently changing web locations so I can easily make mistakes or fail to be consistent and I am glad to be kept accountable!

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024 1

Amended! Thanks, Tom. Yeah, I'm really glad to see their own reporting improving!

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024 1

Sounds good. I did a view source on that page and it looks like the timestamp is 20:24:36+00 (created time 16:49:16+00); the tweet is timestamped 2:01pm, so perhaps we should go with the tweet as it's the standard 2pm time? I think (hope) this is the last outstanding discrepancy for cases

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024 1

Sorry Tom, should have mentioned yours too!

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andrewjmdata avatar andrewjmdata commented on June 11, 2024

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

Thanks Andrew. I haven't compared the numbers with Johns Hopkins data, but as you say there's likely to be discrepancies there too.

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

Hi Emma,

Thanks for the details. I agree with you on all of these points. I've amended the NI 24/03/2020 number, since looking back at the report it says there were 2 new deaths that day (from 2 to 4). I've also amended Wales on 17/03/2020 to 2.

It looks like you need to add 2 to England for 21/03/2020 to make the numbers add up correctly (since you subtracted 2 from Wales for that day).

After all these changes I think our numbers are consistent!

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024

Yes, you're right! Thanks!

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

@emmadoughty I just noticed another discrepancy: England on 21/03/2020 in https://github.com/emmadoughty/Daily_COVID-19/blob/master/Data/COVID19_deaths.csv should be 222 not 218 to get correct totals.

The good news is that PHE is publishing number of deaths for England now (and other UK countries).

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

Going through Scottish case numbers I noticed more discrepancies (hope you don't mind me reporting them here): 2020-03-07 should be 16 cases (not 11), 2020-03-08 should be 18 (not 16). See the raw scraped files https://github.com/tomwhite/covid-19-uk-data/blob/master/data/raw/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-scotland-2020-03-07.html and https://github.com/tomwhite/covid-19-uk-data/blob/master/data/raw/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-scotland-2020-03-08.html

These are also consistent with the Grand Total column in https://github.com/watty62/Scot_covid19/blob/master/data/processed/regional_cases.csv.

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

NI cases: in my repo I have 3 on 2020-03-04, you have 1; and I have 3 on 2020-03-06, you have 4. This tweet (https://twitter.com/publichealthni/status/1235928458431205377) says 3 on 2020-03-06. Not sure about source for 2020-03-04 though.

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

Actually NI cases for 2020-03-04 was reported as 3 here: https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/latest-update-coronavirus-covid-19

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024

Great. I'll update 04/03/2020 to 3. FYI, here (https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/latest-update-covid-19-coronavirus) cases on 06/03/2020 is shown as 4. Maybe a later update but not time-stamped

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andrewjmdata avatar andrewjmdata commented on June 11, 2024

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emmadoughty avatar emmadoughty commented on June 11, 2024

Hi Andrew,

I have seen this. FYI, my cases_by_area.csv and COVID19_by_area.csv files include this data but also include regional breakdowns for Scotland, Wales and NI. I haven't ever done any mapping but you might want to look at how others have done it. I know a few people have given it a shot:

Hope this helps!

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tomwhite avatar tomwhite commented on June 11, 2024

Hi Andrew - in addition to the ones Emma suggested, there are some links here that may be useful: tomwhite/covid-19-uk-data#18

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andrewjmdata avatar andrewjmdata commented on June 11, 2024

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