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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024 1

Also: This issue is closed so please open a new issue with the proposals, e.g. "Improve welcome page design"

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JonasHelming avatar JonasHelming commented on August 10, 2024 1

I actually share the main point the @vince-fugnitto is raising. I think it will be difficult to provide the information we want on with a lot of graphics in the background. Looking at any other IDE such as Eclipse, IntelliJ or VS Code, they all focus on simplicity, important information and first steps on their welcom page. Speaking of which, I opened #30 as a potential future imporvement, basically the idea to re-add some of the action that the default page had, such as "recent workpaces". My personal answer to Vince's question would be that for future revisions on this we should focus on displaying the right information in the most comprehensible way possible and keep it visually clean.

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

We (EclipseSource) intend to work on implementing this on behalf of ST Microelectronics. Help with the design wanted.

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

We are currently defining a welcome page.

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jfaltermeier avatar jfaltermeier commented on August 10, 2024

The current design may look like this:
ksnip_20210118-105935

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marcdumais-work avatar marcdumais-work commented on August 10, 2024

@vince-fugnitto I think you've made the default framework welcome page - you might have feedback for the proposal here?

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brianking avatar brianking commented on August 10, 2024

Does a document exist with the content for the Welcome page? Would you like content to worked on in this issue, or in a separate one?

cc @croundy

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

We have already transferred the document into this PR. For improvements I suggest to open a new bug and describe the improvements there or even better to open a PR once the changes of the current PR are merged.

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brianking avatar brianking commented on August 10, 2024

Thanks @koegel. We are more comfortable working in G Docs, so we'll pull the content out of here into a doc, make updates, and then bring it back here via a PR.

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meKokabi avatar meKokabi commented on August 10, 2024

Please find attached the welcome page design ( 3 options)
Design Concept: Binary Codes - Broad Capabilities - Modern - Agile- Referencing Theia logo visual elements - Minimal - Bold

2A

Screen Shot 2021-01-29 at 8 08 13 AM

!A

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MatthewKhouzam avatar MatthewKhouzam commented on August 10, 2024

None of my business, is that the "oracle" font? are we allowed to use it?

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

DISLAIMER: Personal opinion ahead :)
First proposal: Looks OK to me, but I am not sure if it will look good with all the text on the graphic, since there is a lot of text, see screenshot of Johannes above.
Second proposal: The graphic to me looks like a "broadband" stock photo which I cannot relate to Theia Blueprint
Third proposal: The graphic to me looks like a "digital product" stock photo which I cannot relate to Theia Blueprint

All proposals: The font of "Theia" and maybe also "Blueprint" should match the font of "Theia" in the original logo. Also for all proposals I would like to see how they look like within the Theia frame and with all the text on top as shown in the screenshot of Johannes above.

I cannot really commit to any of the proposals, but I guess there is other opinions?

@jfaltermeier @JonasHelming @lucas-koehler What do you think?

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vince-fugnitto avatar vince-fugnitto commented on August 10, 2024

@koegel @meKokabi what types of improvements were we thinking of including to the current welcome page design (besides possibly responsiveness)? I'm not sure that the proposals are improvements over #24, in fact the new proposals have less information and are rather unclear. We need to keep in mind that this is the first page users/adopters will see, I'm not sure using stock images or graphics without a clear purpose is the best way forward, or gives a professional product feeling.

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

Any further improvement efforts by @meKokabi are now pursued in #11. I have made a proposal on how to continue addressing the comments of @vince-fugnitto and @JonasHelming on #11. Please comment on my proposal there.

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koegel avatar koegel commented on August 10, 2024

@koegel @meKokabi what types of improvements were we thinking of including to the current welcome page design (besides possibly responsiveness)? I'm not sure that the proposals are improvements over #24, in fact the new proposals have less information and are rather unclear. We need to keep in mind that this is the first page users/adopters will see, I'm not sure using stock images or graphics without a clear purpose is the best way forward, or gives a professional product feeling.

Responsiveness and some other minor improvements are already tracked in #27. Also I fully agree with your assessment that this does not further improve the existing design. I therefore proposed a different approach in #11.

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