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astroDimitrios avatar astroDimitrios commented on August 26, 2024 2

Hello, author of tabs in the workbench here. I am very interested in snippets/the issue of customisation of commands, setup instructions etc per institution for the Fortran course I'm looking at. I notice in sandpaper issue 81 there is mention of a possible Lua way to add in some customisation I might look at in the next couple of months.

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trhallam avatar trhallam commented on August 26, 2024 1

Hi, thanks for looping me in.

I have experimented with and delivered this carpentry using the new workbench template a few times now (which you have linkted to). FWIW, I don't think it would be easy to teach this set of lessons without the customisation to the location/infrastructure being used for instruction. Thus a slurm or pbs tab wouldn't be helpful, as student at this level expect the examples to work verbatim.

As an example, I taught this class this week using Archer2, which has specific flags and values for the Slurm commands such as the partition names, the qos name and so forth. Archer2 doesn't need you specify the account/project or reservation but a lot of other systems do. Another example, is that different systems have different levels/approaches to authentication, thus connecting to the system is not the same for every cluster.

I don't necessarily think that the current snippets are the best approach, but this ability to customise the carpentry to the teaching system is very important in my opinion.

I have some familiarity with the workbench now, so happy to contribute more if needed.

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reid-a avatar reid-a commented on August 26, 2024

Some references to other work:

There's an issue about templates for snippets that came up at the May 16 HPCC meeting, at the end of which @trhallam (from EPCC) mentions that they have versions of HPC Intro has been ported to the workbench, with snippets. Whether we want to do exactly this, or something like it, or something else remains an open question.

There are a bunch of github repos in the EPCCed project on GitHub, the most recent HPC Intro reflects their Workbench port.

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trhallam avatar trhallam commented on August 26, 2024

Tab support in the workbench is a WIP.

Tabs are now working and I make use of them, particularly when discussing different local systems (mac/linux/windows).

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