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bchavez avatar bchavez commented on May 17, 2024

Hi @oliverjanik ,

Thanks very much for your suggestion. I think you have a good idea. It would be a good thing to allow support for alternative JSON implementations. Currently, the Java driver is exploring something like this too: rethinkdb/rethinkdb#5128

However, currently the driver relies on some Newtonsoft feature-magic (objects like JObject, JArray, and JToken) to get its work done. It would take some effort to re-factor the source to allow multiple JSON implementations, but should be do-able.

EDIT: Requires #77 to be implemented first.

Updated Benchmarks (thanks to @marshall007):
http://theburningmonk.com/2016/01/binary-and-json-benchmarks-updated-4/

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oliverjanik avatar oliverjanik commented on May 17, 2024

It's good to hear you're open to suggestions.

Newtonsoft is one of the slowest json serializers around and has some crazy baggage (e.g. JamesNK/Newtonsoft.Json#525)

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bchavez avatar bchavez commented on May 17, 2024

Hey Oliver, yeah. I totally understand. I've heard some arguments on both sides regarding Newtonsoft. Microsoft blessed Newtonsoft as the default JSON ser/des in ASP.NET MVC and it was one reason I picked it as the default here.

Currently, I don't have any immediate needs for an alternative JSON implementation right now, so this is a bit lower priority issue for me. However, I'd gladly help with guidance and accept a PR if you or anyone want to take a stab at it.

Side note: It would be interesting to see an updated version of the benchmarks. Looks like the benchmarks were ran against v6.0.7 some time ago. I think we're at v8+ now. I wonder if Newtonsoft made any progress at closing the gap since v6.0.7.

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jakejscott avatar jakejscott commented on May 17, 2024

I think they are always working on improving performance of it http://james.newtonking.com/archive/2015/12/20/json-net-8-0-release-1-allocations-and-bug-fixes

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jakejscott avatar jakejscott commented on May 17, 2024

And it's not too bad if you look at some benchmarks (which already look out of date)
http://theburningmonk.com/benchmarks/

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oliverjanik avatar oliverjanik commented on May 17, 2024

It's less the speed, more the wild and inconsistent API and true WTF moments (like the one I linked to) for me.

Call me sceptical but a library that modifies! my timestamp by just loading json as JObject is an absolute no-go. Moreover there was zero discussion and the issue closed as won'tfix.

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